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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 05:04 AM
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Maybe we should go into the street to call Bush a liar...
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 05:51 PM by Terwilliger
oh WAIT!!!! Some of us did that before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

















That last picture in New York City, on a cold day in February where people were forced to stand up to say what was right. No Clear Channel induced patriotism here

And they were all ignored by Bush, and Blair, and the entire machine that made it possible.

OnEdit: MANY more at http://people.cornellcollege.edu/a-free/feb15content.htm


__________ NOW!!!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 05:47 PM
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1. I was there in that last picture and it was Really Cold but..
Very Heart Warming!!
I bought the video but I haven't played it yet,,of that day in Feb. the 15th,2003 when the whole World got together on the right thing to do!

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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 06:22 PM
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2. The *only* way to oust bush is to reinvigorate the Protest Marches
And we need to do it NOW!

But the media predicted, accurately, that after the war started, that the protest movement would lose its oomph. I didn't want to believe it.......but we were just as guilty of the sheeple of having a 15 min attention span. Sure, a lot of people are still embroiled with turning this around.....but not in a unified way.

We NEED world marches on this.....and we need it NOW. It's the surest way to turn this around.

I mean...gosh, the SPIN on us going out to the streets again with the SAME PLATFORM, yet totally proven correct by ensuing events? It's masterful! and a God-given gift to mankind .....if we would but use it.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 06:45 PM
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7. I've been saying that for weeks Dagmark...
Getting out in the streets again will be the single most powerful message that can be given. The media simply cannot ignore it... they will cover it.

All right home troopers, everybody out in the streets en masse! :kick:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 06:24 PM
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3. and to think that imposter bastard labeled these
as "focus groups".
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:59 PM
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27. "A focus group that was so wide the hubble telescope couldn't..
focus on"...Barry Crimmins Feb, 2003

more bushwa...
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 06:32 PM
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4. maybe it's time to get back out there?
count me in!
:hi:
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 06:41 PM
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5. I think we should be taking to the streets again.
Terwilliger is exactly right: the next major step should be working to translate the energy of the antiwar marches into a coherent political movement.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 06:43 PM
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6. Terwilliger is ALWAYS right
:D
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 06:50 PM
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9. It's about trying to restore the least semblance of credibility...
to the American experiment.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 06:49 PM
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8. Power to the People
Relive the experience through the words of John Lennon
http://homepage.mac.com/prolesunited/iMovieTheater5.html

I am SO there. Can't the organizers of the last marches pull something together? Now is definitely the time to strike since there is so much momentum building up right now.

They said the president is putting it behind him and it's time to move on. They can't ignore thousands of people in the streets saying that they hold him and his entire administration accountable. That certainly would send a message.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:18 PM
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12. Memories...
We need more of them!
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:48 PM
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24. You're right
we got people talking about the war before the war crimes occurred...and with the kinds of hatred borne of the American fearful and anti-American activities of the "you hate America" set, we proved that our message was warranted.

They should have listened for any number of reasons. Now we know they lied to make it happen, so we have to come together and remind them that their experiments in "manifest destiny" are unwarranted, unwanted, and treasonous.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:14 PM
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10. To hell with the "organizations"-WE are the organization to do this!
No kidding.........

Let's organize active DUers by STATE.....and form a committee for each state and get this show on the road.

3 people in one state can get all this fire organized and mobilized.

Let's do it!!!!!

If it's okay......I'd like to start a thread just to organize folks by states. I don't have a good idea as to how to do it......but I will try.

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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:17 PM
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11. Interesting. Maybe DU could do it by state.
Admittedly United for Peace and A.N.S.W.E.R. are already experianced in these matters.

Still an interesting thought though.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:23 PM
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15. We get the ball rolling Jan, and ANSWER and all will JOIN!!!!!!!
I am in no mood to BEG them to push a button to send out an email to the MILLIONS on their list.

BUT, if we get it going (see my thread in Activism), it will take off like WILD FIRE!!!!!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:32 PM
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17. we need the groups that have been involved in the past
such as the United Council Of Churches , veteran's goups, Code Pink, etc. etc. These groups already have membershps that can be mobilized.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:34 PM
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19. Exactly, but OBVIOUSLY they aren't doing a march........
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 07:37 PM by DagmarK
so we get organized by state.......and make them get involved...........at the STATE level.......


Look at this way.....those organizations are not run by a few people. They are empowered by the MILLIONS who march in their name. Those millions of people are right here in our neighborhoods. If we start a grassroots movement on the local level...THOSE organizations' people (our fellow neighbors) will ALSO put pressure on the orgs to mandate this.

Cause LORD KNOWS, I have emailed those orgs and they never write back.....whatever.....everything just goes down the sinkhole. It's the PEOPLE in the streets that make this happen, not some committee at ANSWER. So, when their people start hounding them.....from all over America......they will jump on the bandwagon.

Hell...what activist is NOT thinking "take this to the street!" But everyone is sitting around waiting for someone to get the ball rolling. Well............let's roll that ball!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:55 PM
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26. Seems to me the first thing that would need to happen
is finding a date so permits can be applied for.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:22 PM
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13. Okay, see my ORGANIZING LINK in the Activism Forum
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:22 PM
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14. yes! people are ready
one month would probably be sufficiant to get a huge number of people in DC and SF again. What's going on with United 4 Peace and Answer? We need some serious organising skills, a coalition of groups that were involved last time.
This probably is the best thing we could do right now.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:26 PM
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16. Look......we just roll this out.........and it will come together!
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 07:27 PM by DagmarK
Answer, moveon, united4peace.....they will ALL join in.

I believe that.

We are just stoking the coals here...........

Get a few DUers in each state to bark up a few state level trees.....and it will come together.

I think a MONTH is good. Maybe August 11th? When is Bushfuck leaving for his MONTH long vacation?!! LOL

And THEN watch to see what might emerge on 9/11/03!! If we can get this moving ........a month after THAT........LORD knows what Bush might be facing for the 9/11 anniversary. He will CURSE the day he set 9/11/04 for the RNC. Because we are taking the 11th of every month BACK!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:39 PM
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20. the 11th is a monday
how about the Saturday after that, the 18th? On the 10th many people I know are going to the Oakridge TN nuclear weapons plant to protest.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:43 PM
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22. Okay......well, when we get our committees together, we decide the date
We have to be very careful that we don't get mixed up in the back to school mania...(for the states that still have public schools, that is!)

Maybe the week before the 10th???? We gotta tap this LIAR story for all its worth.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:51 PM
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25. I'll commit to doing all I can to help in this
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 08:03 PM by G_j
you are right about being careful with the date. We first have to get as many folks we can on the same page. I have a meeting with our local peace coalition this tuesday. We are also having an important benifit for our local Women in Black (who were arrested)Aug 3.

I'm in North Carolina and am pretty well networked.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:32 PM
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18. I scream it in the streets daily.
2004 cant come soon enough.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:40 PM
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21. so how do we get there?
In command or waiting for the ax to fall?
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 07:45 PM
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23. I INSIST that everyone in this thread sign up for their state!!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:42 PM
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28. Signing in for SF Bay area, CA
:hi:

Yes my friend, let's rock and roll!
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