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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:05 PM
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The Constitution Restoration Act of 2005
Be scared, folks, I have recently been made aware of this bill and it would end what little is left of America, land of the free.

http://thomas.loc.gov

Search on HR 1070 and Senate 520

Some of the highlights.
`Sec. 1260. Matters not reviewable

`Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an entity of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer or agent of Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official or personal capacity), concerning that entity's, officer's, or agent's acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government.'.

This if I read it correctly bans any challenge to a decision where a fundie rendered the decision.


SEC. 201. INTERPRETATION OF THE CONSTITUTION.

In interpreting and applying the Constitution of the United States, a court of the United States may not rely upon any constitution, law, administrative rule, Executive order, directive, policy, judicial decision, or any other action of any foreign state or international organization or agency, other than English constitutional and common law up to the time of the adoption of the Constitution of the United States.

In other words, all laws since 1787 are void?

SEC. 302. IMPEACHMENT, CONVICTION, AND REMOVAL OF JUDGES FOR CERTAIN EXTRAJURISDICTIONAL ACTIVITIES.

To the extent that a justice of the Supreme Court of the United States or any judge of any Federal court engages in any activity that exceeds the jurisdiction of the court of that justice or judge, as the case may be, by reason of section 1260 or 1370 of title 28, United States Code, as added by this Act, engaging in that activity shall be deemed to constitute the commission of--
(1) an offense for which the judge may be removed upon impeachment and conviction; and
(2) a breach of the standard of good behavior required by article III, section 1 of the Constitution.

This is dangerous, scary stuff, folks. This will scare all but the most brainwashed fundies. Will the press report it? Doubt it.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:08 PM
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1. They're coming back with this shit again?
I suppose they'll keep introducing it and tagging it onto bills until it passes...

Maybe I'll become a judge and a Satan worshipper, if this passes.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:09 PM
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3. I'm considering becoming a Canadian
nt
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:09 PM
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2. On the second point:
They want to render The Bill of Rights and all other decisions since then null and void.

They want to destroy the cumulative legal fabric of this country.

Who introduced this abomination?
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:11 PM
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6. Well in the Congress, we have
Mr. ADERHOLT (for himself, Mr. MCCOTTER, Mr. PENCE, Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia, Mr. BACHUS, Mr. RYUN of Kansas, Ms. FOXX, Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina, Mr. WAMP, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, Mr. ROGERS of Alabama, Mr. PITTS, Mr. EVERETT, Mr. CANNON, Mr. SOUDER, Mr. CANTOR, Mr. PRICE of Georgia, Mr. MCINTYRE, Mr. WELDON of Florida, Mr. JONES of North Carolina, Mr. BISHOP of Utah, Mr. HERGER, Mr. GOODE, Mr. HALL, and Mr. LEWIS of Kentucky) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

and in the Senate we have
Mr. SHELBY (for himself, Mr. BROWNBACK, and Mr. BURR)

Where was Man-on-dog Santorum that day? Watching Spongebob? This bill has his name written all over him.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:22 PM
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10. Looky at the roll call of states sponsoring the bill
Edited on Tue May-17-05 04:23 PM by Bluebear
:eyes:
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:25 PM
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11. whoo-hoo!!!!! Time to bash the south again!!!!
Goddamned rebel scum!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:26 PM
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12. No bashing involved
It's time we realize though that the elected representatives of those states have something very different in mind for our country.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:51 PM
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25. Are Kansas and Utah in the South?
Their legislators co-sponsored this too. And Mr. Pitts is from Pennsylvania.

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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:39 PM
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17. She worships the ground he walks on
The people behind it look a bit enchanted as well, but this woman says it all. This was her day. I feel sorry for her, I really do. I hope I'll never show a face like that for anybody.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:42 PM
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19. 'enchanted'
:)

Perfect word for the Bush worshippers.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:26 PM
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13. My (R) Rep
Is a co-sponser of this crap. The Congressman's name is Ron Lewis. I did email him and his letter said that he'll keep my views in mind but he supports it. Time to flush out these fools, replace them in 2006, and fill their email servers.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:48 PM
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23. Would a LTTE letter work?
I am going to write one in my solid blue state, it may wake up some "Rockerfeller Republicans" who just want low taxes.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 05:03 PM
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27. Bowling Green's newspaper
Daily News is conservative and I doubt a LTTE would get printed or even read past the first paragraph.

Although, there is a fundies working at a tobacco shop I visit for cloves and we tend to break down to religious talk since the elections. I explained how science works once she brought up evolution in schools and how it's a method of knowledge separate from religion. I asked her, "How would you feel if black holes, quarks, evolution, pulsars, genetics, and such was the topics of sermons instead of what he normaly does?" She replied that she would never return to that church. I said, "That is why religion and science must be separate. One will alter the other and messages of both will be blurred into meaninglessness." She now understands and may defend separation of science and religion.

She also calls me a Christian despite being a Deist. LOL
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:10 PM
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4. The Sponsors of This Are Traitors
So SEC. 201., allows the Congress to violate the First Amendment and establish a religion?

The sponsors of this bill are traitors to the United States and should receive the punishment afforded to all who betray their oaths
and their country.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:13 PM
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8. Considering who is in charge now,
Traitors get promotions and the Medal of Honor.
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ThumperDumper Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:11 PM
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5. I heard about this a while back...
they wanted to keep (Judge) Roy Moore from running for president in 2004 and they did it by offering him his own bill.

This should be fun. Christianism needs this kind of exposure. Sooner or later people are going to get sick of so much religious BS and the pendulum will swing the other way. Maybe this will help. ;)
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:13 PM
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7. Do everything you can to block this bill.
There are some nasty Republican Congresspeople who are guilty of high crimes and treason against this country and need impeached for violating their oaths.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:34 PM
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16. Depends how desparate you/we are.
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which is the Flag of the and here is a

If one studies the works of Judah Phillip Benjamin, renowned Attorney General and Secretary of State of the Confederate States of America -- the real issue in the Civil War was not race or slavery --- but import tariffs on glass and manufactured goods and export duties on cotton.

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          Judah Phillip Benjamin
          Secretary of State and
          Attorney General, CSA
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:21 PM
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9. May as well call it
The Constitution Desecration Act of 2005.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:27 PM
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14. Would this need a change in the constitution?
Found an analysis here:

Can't repost it since I can't cut into 4 paragraphs. Please view the whole report at http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/ConstitutionRestorationAct.htm

It's the same as the 2004 report except that the numbers have changed so the first poster was correct. It is the same act repeated for the second time.
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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:30 PM
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15. tongue a bit in cheek here...
... but wouldn't this law just be declared unconstitutional? there seem to be some clear violations of the establishment clause
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:41 PM
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18. Declared unconstitutional by whom?
According to the text of the legislation, section 1260 strips the Supreme Court of the jurisdiction necessary to review any relevant cases. That's a power granted to Congress by Article 3 Section 2 of the Constitution and affirmed by a Supreme Court ruling in 1868.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 05:00 PM
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26. But McCardle doesn't deal with constitutional issues
Congres can say we don't want the Supremes to have authority to interpret a congressional law.

They don't have the authority to deny the Court's jurisdiction to determine whether any law violates the U.S. constitution.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:45 PM
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21. Do you really have confidence
that Scalia, Thomas and whatever other "God's soldiers" that Shrub would put on the Supreme Court would say anything?

On the other hand, noone likes having their power taken away, so they would probably knock it down. But I wouldn't stake my freedom on it.
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RebelAgainstEmpire Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:44 PM
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20. Christian Dominionists
They're nothing but fun.

At least we have C-SPAN. We can actually watch, in real time, whatever it is that democracy is, die.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:46 PM
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22. No more judical review
So now God will be the final judge? Will Bush change his name to God?
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:49 PM
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24. Old dumb joke
What's the difference between God and G.W? God doesn't wake up and think he's G.W.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:37 PM
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28. KICK
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