To our forign members outside the USA,what have you heard about the Toilet

[sam sarrha]

Koran story and when did you hear about it

[muriel_volestrangler]

1. I presume you mean apart from what we've read at DU

I think I first heard about it when the riots in Afghanistan started. I certainly saw this story on Wed 11th, and heard about it on the radio.

The change of story is not a huge story in the UK now - but is being reported (not in the top 9 or so stories on the BBC UK news webpaqe, but it is the top one in their 'Americas' section). John Simpson, the BBC World Affairs Editor, who does a commentary each week, talks about it today here - he's on Newsweek's side:

It is hard to avoid the inference that the people who are really to blame are the men and women who have abused their prisoners, not those who have reported allegations about the ill treatment.

What happened in prisons like Guantanamo, Bagram and Abu Ghraib after 2001 has done serious damage to the United States and its allies: not just the dwindling number who still have troops in Iraq, but the new governments in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Do not blame the news media for this. Instead, all the effort needs to go into convincing the world that the abuse has stopped, and will never be allowed to start again.