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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:19 PM
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I wonder if there was any of this on the History Channel
I wondered if there were a LOT of DOCUMENTARIES on the History Channel about the IRAN HOSTAGES / IRAN CRISIS, for if there were that may be a sign of impending war on Iran.
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:27 PM
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1. oh shit
does Murdoch own History Channel as well :) Actually I'm kidding, I have no idea who owns HC, but nothing would surprise me.
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:33 PM
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2. Not sure if he does but hopefully not. Though I wouldn't be surprised if
"they" went so far as to use the former Iran hostages as an excuse for a war on Iran.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:42 PM
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5. Disney/NBC in 2001 owned History Channel
The Caucas for TV Producers, Writers and Directors

http://www.caucus.org/Downloads/WGA%20Report%203.pdf

pdf shows (at the time, 2001) shows that A&E Networks was owned by

Disney/NBC
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:44 PM
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6. Wonder if they had an interest in a possible Iran war.
eom.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:57 PM
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9. GE owns NBC...Two articles on Outsourcing the Pentagon and
Windfalls of War are at The Center for Public Integrity

http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/bio.aspx?act=pro&ddlC=23

"possible" interest...wa-hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahhaha !

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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:59 PM
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11. Oops, my bad, for it seems their interest is more DEFINITE.
:evilgrin:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:58 PM
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10. Windfalls of War.....'possible' interest ?
Edited on Fri May-13-05 08:59 PM by EVDebs
http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/bio.aspx?act=pro&ddlC=23

OOPs sorry for the duplicate

Could moderator delete this one ?
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:00 PM
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12. Let's say it's a "definite" interest
eom.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:34 PM
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3. The Plot to Overthrow FDR (about Bush's relatives coup attempt)
should have made it into a TV miniseries !

See
www.ihffilm.com/r547.html

"In 1932, while many Americans felt it was the way out of the Depression, a powerful group of financiers and industrialists saw the New Deal as a threat. THE PLOT TO OVERTHROW FDR reveals this group's plan to either overthrow the newly-elected president or force their agenda on him. They intended to use a paramilitary organization of disgruntled WWI veterans inspired by Marine General Smedley D. Butler to coerce the government. But Butler, discovering the details of the conspiracy, blew the whistle, triggering a Congressional investigation. Leading scholars, historians and government officials reveal the details of one of the most bizarre schemes in American history. B&W/Color, 50 minutes."

Plotters included Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker...
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:36 PM
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4. Oh yes, the usual fascist suspects
eom.

Maybe while they're at it they ought to make a good "October Surprise" movie too.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:51 PM
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7. Yes. The original October Surprise btw was with Nixon in '67-68
Edited on Fri May-13-05 08:53 PM by EVDebs
when he spiked the Humphrey / LBJ attempts to make a peace deal. You can read more about that at:

NIXON'S TREASON: He Stopped an Early Peace in Vietnam
Drugs, Wife-Beating -- What About 20,000 American Dead?

www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/3621

The books mentioned, by Stanley Karnow, Anthony Summers and Seymour Hersch, show that

"As Karnow writes, "through one of Nixon's foreign policy aides, Richard Allen, contacted the Republicans, offering to furnish them with covert information on Johnson's moves. A clandestine channel was set up through Nixon's campaign manger, John Mitchell, and Kissinger guided the Republicans secretly on the Vietnam issue for nearly two months -- thus supplying Nixon with the ammunition to blast Humphrey for 'playing politics with war."

And prevented an October peace agreement four years ahead of time...identical to the one in 1973.
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:53 PM
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8. Wonder what was SICKER. playing politics with WAR or playing politics with
HOSTAGES.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 03:43 PM
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13. Here's some even more recent sickness dealing with Oct. Surprise
"Like his father in 1968, Salem died in a 1988 air crash...in Texas. He was flying a BAC 1-11 which had been bought in July 1977 by Prince Mohammed Ben Fahd. The plane's flight plans had long been at the center of a number of investigations. According to one of the plane's American pilots, it had been used in October 1980 during secret Paris meetings between US and Iranian emissaries. Nothing was ever proven, but Salem bin Laden's accidental death revived some speculation that he might have been "eliminated" as an embarrassing witness. In fact, an inquiry was held to determine the exact circumstances of the accident. The conclusions were never divulged."

taken from
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/family.html
with a PBS 'editors note' disclaimer immediately beneath the above quote (PBS added this after I posted the information right after 9-11-01 mentioning this on the air to a radio talk show in Santa Rosa, CA KSRO 'Pat Thurston' show).

So we see that father Mohammed bin Laden dies in TX in 1968, and son Salem dies in TX in 1988:

May 29, 1968
09:49 Mohammed bin Laden
22, father of Osama bin Laden San Antonio, Texas Beech 95-C55
N2090W Crashed while taking off. Fuel starvation. Fuel selector in wrong position. 2 killed.

(Info from
http://www.planecrashinfo.com/famous1960s.htm
note: in the 1980s, info on Salem bin Laden appears to have been removed ! On recent TV broadcasts, Mohammed's death was reported to have been from a helicopter crash in Saudi Arabia. Disinformation or what ?).

In any event, strange deaths, and WHO was piloting the planes ? M$M even want to attempt covering these stories and information ? Hell no.

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