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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:22 PM
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$50 billion more? What happened to the $82 billion we gave you 3 days ago?
from: http://legitgov.org/index.html#breaking_news

What happened to the $82 billion we just gave you three days ago? $50 billion more asked for Iraq, Afghan terror wars 13 May 2005 --The Senate Armed Services Committee has recommended a further $50 billion be set aside for Halliburton <'to fund U.S. military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and the U.S.-declared global war on [of> terrorism.'] The proposed new war spending for fiscal 2006, which starts Oct. 1, would push the cost of the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and its aftermath toward $250 billion. Three days ago, Congress gave final approval for an $82 billion emergency war-spending bill... Even with such a large, emergency funding measure, the Pentagon has said more money would be needed as early as October. By 2010, war costs could top $500 billion, some experts have projected.

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050513/ts_nm/iraq_congress_funding_dc

$50 billion more asked for Iraq, Afghan terror wars

By Jim Wolf
1 hour, 26 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Senate Armed Services Committee has recommended a further $50 billion be set aside to fund U.S. military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and the U.S.-declared global war on terrorism.

The proposed new war spending for fiscal 2006, which starts Oct. 1, would push the cost of the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and its aftermath toward $250 billion, far ahead of initial expectations voiced by the Bush administration.

Officials advocating the invasion played down the financial cost. Then White House budget director Mitch Daniels predicted Iraq would be "an affordable endeavor."

The recommendation for fresh emergency spending was sent to the full Senate on Thursday night as part of a bill that also would authorize $441.6 billion in regular defense spending in fiscal 2006, a 3.1 percent real increase over last year's authorized sum.

Three days ago Congress gave final approval for an $82 billion emergency war-spending bill, of which about $76 billion would go to war-fighting.

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Todd B Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:24 PM
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1. Ask Halliburton.
Ask over at Halliburton, I'm sure they'll be able to tell you.

;)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:30 PM
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8. True. They did just get a 72 million dollar bonus
So we know where that much went...
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:24 PM
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2. Wasn't it Wolfowitz (then deputy SecDef) who basically said...
that the Iraq reconstruction will pretty much finance ITSELF out of oil revenues???

Fuckers.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:26 PM
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5. The Wolfowitz quote:
“We’re dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.”
Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, 3/27/03.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:27 PM
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6. perfect for president of the World Bank eh? n/t
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:31 PM
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9. Define "soon", comblicker!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:04 PM
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22. lol
are these people really THAT stupid?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:24 PM
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3. Because NOBODY could have EVER PREDICTED blah blah blah blah
cost of occupation blah blah blah UN screwed us blah blah blah blah allies coalition blah blah blah freedom isn't free blah blah blah you wanna give up your tax cut you go right ahead blah blah
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:25 PM
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4. Orgy of graft money, duh....
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:29 PM
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7. I think $500 billion by 2010 is a gross underestimate.
We will have spent more than half that already in the first 3 years. Think we are only going to spend that same amount over the next 5 years?

Olaf
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:31 PM
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10. Every penny in every coffer
Will end up in the neocon pocketbook.
Are you willing to stop paying taxes?
BHN
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:07 PM
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21. I don't think I've ever heard the word "billions" used so often.
hundreds of millions to the Iraq war is just chicken feed.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:40 PM
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11. Thanks, G_j. I also added: Halliburton wanted its bonus...
Edited on Fri May-13-05 03:46 PM by Lori Price CLG
I also added on the CLG site, Three days ago, Congress gave final approval for an $82 billion emergency war-spending bill... Even with such a large, emergency funding measure, the Pentagon has said more money would be needed as early as October. By 2010, war costs could top $500 billion , some experts have projected. (Yes, it was an 'emergency.' Halliburton needed its bonus. See: Halliburton gets $72 million bonus for work in Iraq 10 May 2005)

Lori Price
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:44 PM
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18. Lori,
thanks!

**I also want to thank you folks for the great investigative piece, "Judge who exonerated Cheney is on the payroll of Exxon"

posted here a few days ago:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3637618

Keep up the great work!
G_j
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:15 PM
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12. Remember when Kerry said funding the Iraq War
would soon top $220B during the campaign last year, and Bushco totally poopoo'd him?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:17 PM
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13. They must think this is Monopoly money
What's the biggest Monopoly money? The bright yellow 500, right? So take a hundred million of those and... :puke:
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:30 PM
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14. Gas is very expensive to run those military vehicles
I forget where I heard it, but is was something about gallons per mile. Kiss your tax dollars good-bye as they line the pockets of the war profiteers.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:16 PM
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20. Welcome, fed-up
Notice how when the biz-heads talk about the demand for gas they always talk about China but never about the largest single consumer: the Pentagon?

This pathetic war has cost lives, treasure, our standing in the world, and has even helped make filling up that SUV more expensive.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:07 AM
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26. welcome, from someone who is real fed up
:-)
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:35 PM
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15. do you hear that sucking sound?
that's OUR money!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:36 PM
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16. Remember when Pearle said it would cost no more than $3 billion?
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:40 PM
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17. I remember when they said that Iraqi oil money would finance the
whole darn thing.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:54 PM
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19. The oil revenues alone will be more than enough to pay for it
Apparently the revenues will be producing half a trillion dollars very soon.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:08 AM
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23. McKinney asks Rumsfeld about missing trillions:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3552883

Transcript of Representative Cynthia McKinney's Exchange with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers, and Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Tina Jonas, March 11th, 2005

Sec. of Defense Rumsfeld in House Hearing on FY06 Dept. of Defense Budget
Chairman Representative Duncan Hunter (R-CA) and witnesses Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and JCS Chairman General Richard Myers hold a House Hearing on the FY 2006 Budget for the Department of Defense and Military Services.

3/11/2005: WASHINGTON, DC: 2 hr. 5 min.

CMK: Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)
DR: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
RM: Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers
TJ: Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Tina Jonas
DH: Chairman Representative Duncan Hunter (R-CA)

25:20
CMK: Thank you Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary, I watched President Bush deliver a moving speech at the United Nations in September 2003, in which he mentioned the crisis of the sex trade. The President called for the punishment of those involved in this horrible business. But at the very moment of that speech, DynCorp was exposed for having been involved in the buying and selling of young women and children. While all of this was going on, DynCorp kept the Pentagon contract to administer the smallpox and anthrax vaccines, and is now working on a plague vaccine through the Joint Vaccine Acquisition Program. Mr. Secretary, is it policy of the U.S. Government to reward companies that traffic in women and little girls?

That's my first question. My second question, Mr. Secretary: according to the Comptroller General of the United States, there are serious financial management problems at the Pentagon, to which Mr. Cooper alluded.

Fiscal Year 1999: $2.3 trillion missing.

Fiscal Year 2000, $1.1 trillion missing.

And DoD is the number one reason why the government can't balance its checkbook. The Pentagon has claimed year after year that the reason it can't account for the money is because its computers don't communicate with each other.

My second question, Mr. Secretary, is who has the contracts today, to make those systems communicate with each other? How long have they had those contracts, and how much have the taxpayers paid for them?

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:30 AM
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24. Criminals with unlimited access to Easy Money ALWAYS want to steal more
Edited on Sat May-14-05 08:30 AM by tom_paine
And we are now ruled by the most disgusting and odious criminals EVER in our nation's history.

We are at the stage where the burgalar is in the bedroom, pointing his gun and us and our spouses with shaky hands saying, "If you move, I'll blow your effing heads off."

The burglar is the Busheviks. The gun is Hitler's Enabling Acts, I mean the Bush UnPATRIOT ACTs, which will turn this nation into a Nazi Dictatorship basically by turning a key, no further laws required (yet more will be passed against the day when -REDACTED- ).

And we have no recourse, no way to change who is in power due our rigged "voting" systems, which only Joe Stalin, ol' Adolf, or a Bushfriend like the Saudi King could love.

And if we make one false move, make no mistake, the Busheviks will Nazi us in a second and without hesitation.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:37 AM
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25. The econowhores increased their hourly rates again.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:27 AM
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27. Hahahaha.
The war's not going well. Let's see $50,000,000 for 100 insurgents. That's $500,000 apiece. Wow!

What's the real cost of a gallon of gas?
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