Anti-Evolutionist fantasizes govt. sponsored Inquisition of evolutionists

[BurtWorm]

http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/59

May 11, 2005
The Vise Strategy: Squeezing the Truth out of Darwinists


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Thus, in a crucial way, the Kansas hearings repeat the pattern set by the Scopes Trial, which has been repeated many times since, namely, evolutionists escaped critical scrutiny by not having to undergo cross-examination. In this case, they accomplished the feat by boycotting the hearings. I therefore await the day when the hearings are not voluntary but involve subpoenas that compel evolutionists to be deposed and interrogated at length on their views. There are ways for this to happen, and the wheels are in motion (e.g., Congressional hearings over the teaching of biology in federally funded high schools for military kids). For such hearings to have the desired effect, however, will require that evolutionists be asked the right questions.

What I propose, then, is a strategy for interrogating the Darwinists to, as it were, squeeze the truth out of them....




:eyes: What a pathetic runt of an irrationalist!

[phantom power]

1. I'd laugh harder, except the runts are currently running the asylum.

[BurtWorm]

True!

But apparently their PR circus failed to sway anyone in Kansas. It's unclear if they're going to go ahead anyway, though.

[BurtWorm]

3. Delete

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[tblue37]

9. We went through this in 1999 here in Kansas.

The creationist board members were voted out in the next election. Even in Reublican districts, their pro-evolution Republican primary opponents defeated them, so all the candidates for the school board seats up for election that year were pro-evolution. Then the public went back to sleep, as it always does, and the yahoos fielded stealth candidates and regained their board majority in the next election:

I have an article about the whole 1999 thing up on my Teacher, teacher site:

"Scopes Revisited?: The Kansas Board of Education's 1999 Decision on Evolution"
http://www.teacherblue.homestead.com/scopes.html

[A HERETIC I AM]

2. Squeeze the truth out of them? LOL!

The truth: Overwhelming evidence supporting the theory. Absolutely none to support creationism.

[BurtWorm]

4. As pandasthumb.org pointed out,

it's beyond ironic that this idiot thinks it's a good idea to even mention the Scopes Trial, considering they want to pretend they're all about the science.

[Fire Walk With Me]

13. Yeah, we're hiding the fact that we know we're wrong and are afraid

that if thoroughly questioned, one of us will spill the beans that we're really just scared people propping up a superstitious superstructure upon which to attach our uncertainty.

Wait, that's them...

Why do they hate our freedom etc. etc. How dare we believe something they don't approve of etc. etc.

Can't they hear themselves?

[Terran]

5. Hey, I like your use of "irrationalist"!

I think it's more handy to use than referring to the "reality-based community". Gonna start using that one!

[Zhade]

6. Kick

Kick

[Beetwasher]

7. What An Idiot. So, Would A Creationist Be Able To Withstand That Scrutiny?

How do you explain the commonality of DNA? God did it!
How do you explain vestigial organs? God did it!
How do you explain evolution that is actually observed in the lab in things like viruses, fruit flies etc? God did it!

Fucking ignorant morons.

[BurtWorm]

8. They still use the same arguments Darwin's first opponents used.

As though no new data has become available!

Fucking ignorant morons!

[Coexist]

10. But... but... didn't you read Icons of Evolution

what a buch of tired crap that was!

BTW - love the Darwin photo.

[Johonny]

11. Like publishing in a peer reviewed journal?

"evolutionists escaped critical scrutiny by not having to undergo cross-examination"


I imagine most publishing evolutionist undergo examination nearly everytime they publish something. Meanwhile creationist still use the same discredited talking points over and over and over... YAWN!

[H2O Man]

12. Am I wrong?

I am confident that my 11-year old daughter would easily win a debate against anyone who was advocating creationism as opposed to evolution. I assume that most 11- or 12-year olds with an interest in science could. It would be no more difficult than debating on issues such as "is the world round or flat?" or "is the earth located at the exact center of the universe?"

[toddaa]

16. Depends on who you're debating

I attended one of these "debates" about 10 years ago and the basic tactic of the creationist is to throw out hundreds of "facts" over the course of the time limit in front of an audience with little or no knowledge of science. The defender of evolution usually tries to slowly explain all the technical details of the scientific position, but is left with little or no time to finish any thought. Basically, what you get is a smooth talking salesman who completely floods the debate with tons of sewage that the slow, deliberate scientist has no hope of cleaning up in an hour.

I did hear a debate on a talk radio show once that I thought was brilliant. The evolutionist conceded that he didn't really believe in evolution and forced the creationist to defend his position. Once you go on offensive in one of these "bamboozle them with data" shows, you win.

[BurtWorm]

17. Are you asking why evolutionists refuse to debate creationists?

It's the same reason why it's best not to debate freepers on the question, "Did the Clintons murder Vince Foster." Freepers aren't interested in the truth, either.

[H2O Man]

18. Ha!

Very true. Very true indeed.

[daleo]

14. Um, how about RW Christians being subpoenaed to prove their truth

I await that day. For such hearings to have the desired effect, however, will require that religious extremists be asked the right questions.

P.S. - I have nothing against un-crazy theism, I am even prone to it once in a while myself.

[sweetheart]

15. Aahhh, what the hell

Education and quality teachers beat textbooks hands down.

I remember in high school biology, having to read a book that included
creationism "by law"... then the next day, my biology teacher looked at
the class and said, "If any of you put that garbage on a test, i'll
flunk you." Just make sure that there are good teachers and all the
stupid legislated books in the universe won't make water flow uphill.