Attention Eeyores! Your negative attitude helps Bush get away with this

[Melodybe]

shit. I have a petition table every week in front of the Ole Miss Union. I am collecting signatures for verified voting, citizens against the draft, and support for HR 181 (a bill that supports adding parental consent to the New Freedom Comission) and every week I talk to both democrats and republicans. For the last 2 years I have working my ass off with the college democrats, and in that 2 years one thing has changed, republicans. The tide is actually turning, the word is getting out,for goodness sake, even people like Jim Lampley, of HBO Boxing, is blogging about election fraud and Diebold!

The internet and people like Micheal Moore, Greenday, and the Daily Show are getting the truth out.

So could the folks that insist on coming here and repeating crap like no one cares, people are too stupid to figure out the truth, nothing we do works, doom, gloom, etc, etc, etc, please stop helping Bush get away with all this shit.

Everything that Bushco does is a mind fuck, everything. They want us to believe that no one cares, they want us to believe that people are ok with lying, people are ok with fascism.

Well it is not fucking true, so cut it out!

Look at polls lately, before the election almost every political poll I voted in, no matter what the topic, was spilt about 55/45. Now every poll I go to is atleast 70% in our favor, Terry Schivo, the filibuster, Delay, Bolten, medicare. People are finally starting to point the finger in the right direction, they are getting pissed at Bush, and we ARE gaining ground.

So dear Eeyores, I love you but for once could you try to look at the bright side of things.


:grouphug: I think you all need it.

[n2mark]

1. You are right

but it is difficult to be positive when we keep getting slapped in the face. One can only get slapped so many times before the slaps begin to hurt.

[ooglymoogly]

50. i too have noticed the tide is changing

and i agree the *co strategy is to wear us out with constant endless bullshit and complicit media is just piling on telling us its just a sign of the times, nothing to see here folks, move on.

[Valerie5555]

2. At times I was more of a realist for if you're NOT in the UNITED STATES,

what can you do? :shrug: :shrug:

[FreedomAngel82]

3. So what do you suggest we do?

Voting machine's are still here and until we get back a lot of seats next year what can we do? How do we know people will vote for democrats and not some new republican who will make false promises? It's not that easy.

[Jane Austin]

6. Voting methods are decided at the state and local levels.

Find yourself a state legislature candidate to work for, lobby your county commission and state agencies for public precinct-level vote certification.

No need to feel helpless. There's lots to do.

[eeyore]

4. You talking to me?

I'm nothing but a wellspring of positivity! Take my sig line for instance....

;)

-eeyore

[Morning Dew]

5. "It isn't as if . . .

there was anything wonderful about my little corner. Of course for people who like cold, wet, ugly bits it is something rather special."

:)

[The Magistrate]

8. Indeed, Sir

"I'm feeling particularly cheerful this morning...."

[Nostradammit]

7. AMEN !!!

...What she said!

Some days I envision Karl Rove pacing back and forth in front of a bank of computer trolls screaming: "WHAT'S THE USE, NO ONE CARES, THEY OWN THE MEDIA, WE ALWAYS LOSE..." and the trolls are all typing away furiously, posting to all the progressive sites.

Thank you for that rant. I understand despair, it's an old friend of mine. We don't have time for it now.

[HR_Pufnstuf]

9. Yours truly, Tigger

[Valerie5555]

10. I also wondered what if you felt like you could only make a difference in

that which you felt you could control. :)

[Tactical Progressive]

11. Everybody had a real positive attitude throughout 2004

It was an embarassment of riches with Kerry and Clark and Edwards and even Al Sharpton saying some amazing things. Kerry destroyed Bush in the debates. Versus skyrocketing debt, Richard Clarke's terrorism revelations, the 9/11 Commission, Joe Wilson CIA outings, Iraq war lies, AWOL Bush. All broadly understood. And look what happened.

These people, the Republicans and the media, are monsters, and they will stop at nothing. I'm not saying things aren't looking up for Democrats, but things have been looking up for Democrats since Bush was chosen to run in 2000. Maybe others are a little jaded about being pollyanas.

Imagine if you already knew this future: the Republicans will lose a handful of seats in the House and two in the Senate in 2006, retaining complete control for Bush's entire second term again. Then in 2008 another Republican will win the White House and sweep in an even larger Republican majority than exists now. Do you think that can't happen?

The American people are greedy, craven and completely self-centered. It can easily happen. It's been happening for ten years, and not counting a few short years with Clinton, it's been happening for a quarter of a century.

I have a kind of positive attitude too, but that's the natural state of Democrats recovering from each previous election theft. It isn't something to count on.

[Melodybe]

12. Americans are greedy and self centered and under Bush they are going broke

and into debt and finally they are pointing their fingers at the people that deserve it.

I disagree with everyone having a positive attitude last year, posts with good news hardly ever get a high post count, but bad news gets hundreds of posts. The majority of people here are attracted to the negative side of things, always have been.

[Melodybe]

13. kick b/c I am writing this to a bunch of folks here.

[grumpy old fart]

14. There are liberals at Ole Miss?

This is very positive news. Always looked like Stepfordville to me....maybe that's just during football season....

[Melodybe]

15. Well football games are completely saturated with repub assholes

the student body on the other hand is about 50/50 and moving more in our favor all the time.

[grumpy old fart]

18. Only been to Oxford for football games, thanks for the hopeful words...

[Tsiyu]

16. preach on, Sister

preach on....


:headbang:

[understandinglife]

17. Persist. Thank you. (nt)

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[blindpig]

19. for politics, maybe so

but there is damn little good news concerning the environment, which is the bottom line. If you can find me any good news about climate change, peak oil, overpopulation or biodiversity(OK, the Ivorybill, but that brings a shittrain of other considerations) I would be very gratified. Yes, we're probably doomed.

[Melodybe]

21. My grandfather Dr. Wallace S. Brocker, one of the fathers of the GW debate

doesn't have much good news, but he says that they are working hard to find a mechanical way to reverse the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere.

Knowing that my grandpa is working hard to help us makes me happy.

[Turn CO Blue]

31. Mother Earth is very resilient

It is only the present state of the environment and the present lifeforms that are in jeopardy -- but you knew that this state was only temporary anyway. 99.99999% of all species that have ever existed on this rock are extinct now anyway by natural design or selection. Why should our fate be different?

And so far as climate change and global warming -- remember that this planet loves to bathe inself in snow and ice every few eons (vast and great ice ages, which will return at her whim). She loves to rearrange the furniture too (all on it own, without our help) when it shoves its plates around (techtonic plates).

Think on this...you know deep down, the earth and its varied creatures will survive. Life emerges. It survives. It multiplies. Mother Earth will protect herself. She came back after a huge comet wiped out 99% of life (and killed the dinosaurs). Countless tsunami, earthquakes, comets, hurricanes, diseases and predators were here and wracked the surface, long before humans were ever even a clump of cells in the primordial goo.

Unless we can figure out how to knock this rock off its celestial course, short of that, there is no damage now that cannot be reversed by the planet's natural processes over time.

There is no doubt that we, the self-centered, consuming humans have made an impact on the planet's current state and its other inhabitants -- but over the course of time and space, we can't even make a dent in the universe or its systems. We think we are tough, but Mother Earth can "take us".

Sorry to get so metaphysical, our time on this planet is a mere few seconds. The Universe itself is infinite.

[blindpig]

35. Don't jive me with that cosmic debris

Things change, no shit. That does not excuse a supposedly intelligent species from trashing 3+ billion years of evolution in a geological blink of the eye. Are we as dumb as an inert asteriod?

I am a child of Gaia, I live in the here and now. That some form of life will survive us is pretty much a given, probably not a vertebrate, maybe not a metazoan. Are you good with that? I'm not.

What of our fellow sentients? Anthropoid apes, ceteans, perhaps(IMHO)elephants, all are being exterminated as a byproduct of our greed. Is that cool with you in the greater scheme of things? It makes me ashamed to be human. Dogs have much greater moral standing.

I suspect you need to get out more, you seem to have little appreciation for what is being lost.

[Turn CO Blue]

37. Your bad day is showing

No one has excused any environmental sins, especially not me. I just refuse to accept one person's analogy of the final impact. I EMPOWER myself to disagree with your assessment of the finality of the situation, is all.

You've lost hope and any sense of perspective (much less any sense of common courtesy since you resort to insults) and you have resorted to petty insults and asinine assumptions about me.

You were practiclly BEGGING for cheering up and attention in your post, but apparently you seek negative attention instead?

It's positively short-sighted and melodramatic to assert that, environmentally, things can not be turned around -- or at least turned around before "vertabrates cease to exist" (or insult other absurd melodramatic doom-and-gloom statement here!) Case in point, Denver went from having the "worst" brown cloud to no brown cloud in just a few years.

Speaking of greed, there is more than one kind of greed, you know?

As your avatar invokes: DON'T TREAD ON ME!

[blindpig]

43. so, a mind reader?

"BEGGING for cheering up and attention", Talk about asinine assumptions.

I do apologize for any offense taken, clearly I am not a psychic either, it's just that your post provided cold, nay bitter comfort for a situation that I find utterly tragic.

Ok, extinction of vertebrates might(but might not) be over the top, but the lose of 90% within the next 100 years is quite likely if thing go on. And I don't see squat being done to rein in human population growth, ultimately the engine which drives our destructive behavior.

Lost hope, over all pretty much. We knew all of this shit was coming down when I was in HS, 33 years ago, and at the time it looked like issues were starting to be being addressed. Then came Reagan, may he rot in hell. It's been all down hill since. So I make due with a heightened appreciation of irony.

Would you mind explaining this other kind of greed of which you speak?

[Turn CO Blue]

51. Not a mind reader...

Just ineffective at communicating sometimes, and on (I hope) rare occasions, easily baited.

Here's a little hope for you on the environment:

Rebuffing Bush, 132 Mayors Embrace Kyoto Rules -NYT
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1471203&mesg_id=1471203>

We CAN turn this around...

The greed comment was bad judgment on my part, based on letting myself be triggered to escalate. Lots of flamewars and dramas going on on DU lately, and it seemed to be something in the air, especially in the Lounge. I meant that there is a degree of selfishness (another form of greed) in wanting to bring others down when you are down. I'll leave it at that. Obviously, you have the right to express your dismay any way you like and I'll respect that.

[crispini]

20. AMEN, Hallelujia!

Sing it sister! :thumbsup:

[Kurovski]

22. Americans aren't stupid!

We're just kinda lazy.

Recommended!

[bejammin075]

23. Agreed !!!

And now that we have the smoking gun Blair minutes published on 5/1/05 in the British Sunday Times, I will NOT let anyone shit on my parade.

We are taking this country back. Fuck waiting for '06. We will have the President's disapproval numbers at 60+ by the end of the summer and Chimpeachment will be the standard water cooler talk.

If you're negative, if you've given up, shut the fuck up and get out of the way.

[Valerie5555]

24. Maybe we need another Bill Clinton type to give us another shot of energy

and hope. ::D:


On Edit I wonder what people would think if Hillary Clinton went "Look Bushie, AL QUAEDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!," and then * went "Where?, Where?," and she kicked him in the butt. :D :evilgrin:

[Ichiro]

44. Great edit!

Funny image Hillary and Bushie, I wonder if she is ever tempted, he is such a dolt. Anyway, thanks! :rofl:

[mogster]

25. What a spirited post!

:hi: Things are definitely looking brighter than it did a couple of months ago.

[Melodybe]

26. Sorry about the foul language, I talk like a trucker.

If it offends any, I appologize.

[mogster]

30. No offence here

I like foul language. It tells the truth ;-)

Good stuff!

[dzika]

27. Nice post. Nominated. n/t

[Ladyhawk]

28. Thanks. I fall easily into the role of Eeyore. :)

I don't necessarily propogate my feelings anymore, but when I see a negative post, my heart sinks. I've been thinking about taking a vacation away from DU.

LH

[merh]

29. Nominated - but you should know, not everyone is negative.

Check out this post - We need to encourage one another, recognize what we have accomplished and keep working together.

(((((((((((ripple effect)))))))))))))
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1768573

repost of your OP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1768573&mesg_id=1782057

[MelissaB]

32. Boy did I need to read this today.

:hi: from Alabama.

[BiggJawn]

33. WHAT "bright side"?

I'm going grocery shopping tonight. for every concerned person you signed up this month, I'll bet I see at LEAST 30 Oblivio-tron Sheep who think "Rush is Right, Freedom's on the March...gotta buy s'more yeller ribbon magnuts..."

[Melodybe]

34. Cute, the bright side is that word is getting out

despite all of Bushco efforts the truth is leaking its way into the American populace.

To quote my favorite DU t-shit "the revolution will not be televised, it's online."

[nashville_brook]

36. as a matter of fact -- today has been GREAT -- event horizon in view

almost... still blurry, but damn! the WARCRIMES letter + the memo + Waynesville + andy + the plethora of republican conversion stories... dang, i can almost SEE it now. back at the inaugural, i couldn't conjure an image this hopeful. i'm a happy girl. i'm going to listen to my new History of Funk box set and have a weekend of friends and conversation. this weekend we discuss how things are looking up. this weekend we plan and strategize and smile a bit wider. and you know what that leads to.. :)


things are happening. we've been pushed to the event horizon.

[girl gone mad]

38. Am I the only one that spent a second trying to..

figure out what an "eyewhore" was?

D'Oh! That darn dyslexia..

Gotta take the good with the bad, I guess, Melodybe. You're right when you say that they want us to believe that everyone thinks like and agrees with them. Inevitability is one of the more powerful tools of fascism.

[Nothing Without Hope]

39. You are RIGHT. And be sure to see this post that makes the point directly

from personal experience:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3651186
Thread title: Hi, my name is Stacy, and I'm a recovering Republican...................

And this one too:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3652906
Thread title: “OMG - my parents LEAVE the Republican Party!”

[sweetheart]

40. Its the MSM-zoned persons

In all honestly, the "toxicity" you're on about comes from the american
mass media... and you're complaining about the symptoms, and slighly
askew of the cause.... watching the tele.

If DU wanted it over, it would shift all television and radio threads
to a Media forum out of GD. If DU did not, then it is our job to
observe and mark the virus mentality that travells from the television-
mind in to the rest of our public.

[Valerie5555]

41. Also aside from my worries about * bombing Iran in June I am generally a

positive person. ::D:


Hopefully any new wars would trigger a MASSIVE TSUNAMI of opposition,btw.

[Valerie5555]

42. I wonder if this would be a REALLY HOPEFUL sign, if every Democrat in

power, all of a sudden began to grow some, as in balls and ovaries, that is.

[w4rma]

45. Amen, friend! (nt)

[joefree1]

46. "Lead, follow, or get out of the way"

Doom and gloom is the birth right of the Fundie Right. We don't need that poison here. At the very least each new day chips away at the lie of the neo-con death cult.

Thank you for your post.

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - )

[lonestarnot]

47. Personally I like pointing to the doom and destruction he has caused...

Never once have I said, "I don't care." Truth is truth and Johnie cracked corn. Ain't letting him get away with shit! Don't try to manipulate how people feel, it's one thing that we get out of this new "ownership society" ... we own our feelings! Fuck we are doomed!

[Orsino]

48. Sorry to seem negative...

...but petitions won't do it. Candidates must cozy up to Big Money, and Big Money already owns most of the media, most of industry, and most of the voting machines. We could have stopped it many years ago, but I believe that money's momentum is too much to overcome with rational discourse, however heartfelt.

No, I'm afraid that peaceful revolution has become impossible in America, and I'm terrified that my family won't be out of the country before the inevitable (IMO) occurs.

Pray that I'm wrong, and continue your good work. Please don't hate me for concentrating more on escape than reform.

[Tigress DEM]

49. Thank you for saying this, however...

it may depend on where a person is at on a particular day.

I spend a lot of time trying to point out exactly the kinds of progress that are being made and how we need to recognize that and not let ourselves buy into the the fear the neocons want to pump into us, but I've had my hopeless days too.

So I like the group hug deal.

I also tell everyone I think can benefit from it about Paul Loeb's book "The Impossible Will Take A Little While" because it brought me back from the brink of political despair.

From Martin Luther King to Desmond Tutu to the Russian Revolution and Nazi resistance and Walter Wink it brings the stories of people who have been where we are at and leaders of the time and its message is that every little bit is important, that without every little bit it wouldn't happen. Got me up out of my shit real fast.

[merh]

52. I agree with you.

It will take time and determination, but it also takes recognizing what we have accomplished. We need to encourage and congratulate each other and ourselves for trying and not giving up. Please see the link in my sig. :pals:

[Valerie5555]

53. What about us Narnian Marsh Wiggles or Puddleglums ???????????????????????

"I'm betting Bush or * would attack Iran either sometime later this year or early next year, I shouldn't wonder."