1 Freakers Take on the Church that Kicked Out Dems. Scary

[maxrandb]

Was looking at the posts on the wing-nut site. Most are pretty scary, but this one in particular sent chills up my spine. Makes me wonder in John O is really Dick Cheney's screen-name. He did say we Dems were of the "other" faith didn't he. Check out this wing-nuts take on this. Guess he's got a hot-line to Jesus.

"The pastor did the correct and biblical thing.
If a member of a Christian church refuses to repent and follow Christian teaching we are commanded to disfellowship them.

A person cannot be a Christian and support the democrat party. Democrats support abortion, special rights for homosexuals, the destruction of the family, and just about every other anti-Christian cause out there.

Anyone claiming to be a Christian and a democrat is either lying about being a democrat or lying about being a Christian. and since the democrats are the party of liars the odds are great that they are lying about being Christian" Since the bible tells us to avoid all these things it is a sin to vote democrat

100 posted on 05/09/2005 8:25:25 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))

There you have it folks. Dems=Evil, Bush=Everything that's pure.

Wonder what god thinks about "shock and awe" and all those innocent Iraqi civilians.

Makes me think of a great comdey routine I saw once where the comic was playing the role of the Devil. He looked over all the people in hell and said "Are there any Christians here?" millions raised their hands. The Devil smiled and said "well, too bad for you. It turns out the Jews were right".

[SheepyMcSheepster]

1. WWJD?

Who Would Jesus Disfellowship?

edit: it's Disfellowship not Defellowship :D

[DulceDecorum]

20. Who Would Jesus Torture?

Who Would Jesus Kill?
Whose Children Would Jesus Sodomize?
Whose Oil Would Jesus Covet?
What Nation Would Jesus Overthrow?
Against How Many Democrats Would Jesus Bear False Witness?
How Many Male Prostitues Would Jesus Hire?
How Many Horses Would Jesus ....
you get the idea.

[Roland99]

2. Poverty is the biggest cause of the destruction of the family.

What does the GOP represent re: poverty?


I think we all know the answer to that one.

[maxrandb]

4. Like Napolean Said

"Religion is what keeps the poor from killing the rich"

[Toots]

3. Obviously spoken by someone who has never read the words of Christ.

:shrug: Ignorance is the major crop and export of amerika.

[maxrandb]

8. You Are Almost Right

He's probably read the words of Christ. The problem is that he has some wing-nut, hate filled preacher interpreting those words for him.

That's the problem. It's not what Jesus said, it's the idiots that interpret it. It's like if Jesus had a team to scrub his message, just like the White House transcripts.

[shoelace414]

5. Jesus was a liberal

http://www.controlthedebate.com/index.php?id=9

[richmwill]

6. Something to think about

Would Jesus love a political party that accepts the bombing and killing of innocent women and children? Would Jesus love a political party that takes from the poor to give to the rich? Would Jesus love a political party that condones giving guns to children? Would Jesus love a political party that preaches hate for people who are "not like you"? Chew on that, Mr. Freeper. Worried about the placement of your eternal soul yet? I hope you are.

[mike_c]

7. well, I guess that sounds about right to me....

A person cannot be a Christian and support the democrat party. Democrats support abortion, special rights for homosexuals, the destruction of the family, and just about every other anti-Christian cause out there.

Works fine for me, although I suspect there are a few liberal democratic christians out there who might disagree. But I certainly don't have any problems with this part of the analysis!

[flvegan]

10. What?

[mike_c]

13. it was a bit tongue in cheek....

I suppose we need a smilie for that. I'm an atheist uber-liberal who is perfectly happy supporting women's right to choose, gay rights, and all of the other "anti-family" values the RW accuses me of.

on edit: oh-- I forgot to add that I hate freedom, too.

[Bellamia]

11. I'm one that disagrees.........

"Christians" come in all varities of belief & practice; not all are Fundies.

[Missy M]

9. They are mind boggling in their stupidity...

...I am a Democrat and I support a woman's choice, the same rights for homosexuals and heterosexuals, I have never destroyed a family and whatever the other anti-Christian causes are out there are I'm pretty sure I'm not guilty (or maybe I am). I find it quite interesting that Democrats can't possibly be Christians or Christians can't be Democrats. I never knew that only conservative republicans are Christian. I learn something new everyday.

[maxrandb]

12. Welcome to Fristianity

or G.W. Bush Amerika. You of the "other faith" will be assimilated.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

14. LINK please? Links to freakrepublic are allowed here.

Only the Sphincter is prohibited. Bodily functions, you know.

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

15. It was Rowan Atkinson.

The comic you mentioned in your last paragraph. And yeah, the sketch where he's welcoming the newly damned is one of his best.

"What's that? No, I'm sorry, we have no toilets here. So, if you didn't go before you came, then I'm afraid you're not going to have a very good time. But then, that's sort of the idea, isn't it?"

"Atheists, line up over here, please. Well, you must feel a right bunch of nitwits..."

[noonwitch]

16. Those kicked out of the church are now free to go elsewhere

And to take their donations with them.

There are lots of churches out there, some are probably even conservative or fundamentalist, that don't determine membership based on one's voting patterns.
The UCC, UMC, PBUSA, Unitarian/Universalist, Unity, Episcopal, etc., don't ever make such judgements. They even embrace conservatives who are members, if they haven't already left the denominations for some more conservative church.

The dutch reformed churches (Christian Reformed Church and Reformed Church of America) are very conservative in outlook, but I doubt that they would ever kick out a member for being a liberal. For being gay, maybe, but not for voting democratic.

I've heard that the American Baptist denomination is more liberal-leaning than most baptist denominations. I know they ordain women and were on the National Council of Churches in the 80s (I'm not sure if they still are).

[boddhi]

23. maybe I need to scream louder

I'm relatively new, so I don't know how to do this but I believe that it's very important to note that, while I agree that the people can and should go elsewhere, the non-profit status of church means that it must conduct all political discussions in a non-partisan manner. They can NEVER, under any circumstances, specifically oppose or favor a particular candidate. They MAY say something about agreeing or disagreeing with a particular issue, but this can NEVER bleed over to specifying a party or a candidate.

The punishment for this is the loss of their non-profit status, i.e. they will need to pay taxes on the donations. This is NOT a place where economics currently holds sway. It's what you agree to when you apply for a 501(c)(3) non-profit waiver from the IRS.

Any minister or board member who said anything from the pulpit or a formal meeting of the church that encouraged people to vote for Bush and/or against John Kerry is in violation of their 501(c)(3) status and they should have to pay taxes for any years they violated that status.

Them's the rules, folks.

Or maybe the discussion about this is somewhere else and I can't find it - in which case, many apologies....

[Kerrytravelers]

17. Sounds like my brother-in-law... a Southern Baptist music minister ...

... and all-around asshole. The worst human being I have ever met. I feel so sorry Mr. kt had such a terrible brother.

[tnlefty]

18. Destruction of the family? Can they say Newt Gingrinch, Neil Bush

Bob Barr and so many others and explain to me just how their actions had a positive outcome in relation to their families? Self righteous idiots.

I have a friend who teaches high school English and she has had many of her students state that one can not be a christian and a democrat.

[aeolian]

19. "disfellowship?"

is that a verb?

[maxrandb]

24. Just Be Thankful the Word is Not "Dismembership"

[ComerPerro]

21. Special rights??

Like wanting to have their union recognized and recieve the same benifits as any other couple?

:wtf:

[boddhi]

22. Church ousts members who don't back Bush

He's backpedaling now, but a pastor in NC actually kicked people out for voting for Kerry.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/religion/cst-nws-church08.html

Church ousts members who don't back Bush

Hello ACLU, anyone? What do they have to do before they lose their 501(c)3 status?

[Disturbed]

25. Hmmm... I am guessing ...

that Fundie churches would kick out Greens and Socialists and of course Anarchists and Commies?

Would KKK members, Neo Nazis and others of that ilk be welcome?