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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 03:35 PM
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(Gulp!) The logical outcome of impeaching Dumbya...
...is a Cheney presidency! I just realized that. OMFG! Are we damned if we do and damned if we don't?
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:33 PM
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1. Needless worry to say the least.
Impeachment is not going to happen, for the zillonith time!!!
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:34 PM
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2. that , my Dear, you will never have to worry about
with a Puke Congress and USSC. They are "sin verguenza", without shame.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:34 PM
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3. my plan is to implicate Cheney first
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 02:42 PM by proud patriot
since he sent Wilson to Africa .

Cheney specifically asked the CIA about this evidence .
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:35 PM
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4. if Dumbya goes
one way or another Crashcart goes down too...

How could Cheney govern when his credibility is tangled up in Dumbya's... as far as I'm concerned Crashcart is just as responsible for those 16 little words that killed thousands of people
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:35 PM
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5. As a significant part of the lies . .
. . and the real decision-maker in this whole thing as anyone with half a brian knows, it should be a dual impeachment.

Two for the price of one. And this time it won't take $70 million of the taxpayers' money.

The Dem campaign slogan for 2004 could be: "Dems, slashing the cost of government by half."
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:39 PM
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7. I agree completely...
...but I just had that awful realization come over me as if I had just waked up from a nightmare, only to realize I'm IN the nightmare!

Oh, and I LOVE the typo: "half a brian." I think that should go right up there with "morans": it's obvious some of these freepers have half a brian or less!!!
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:54 PM
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16. I usually catch my typos . .
. . but maybe this one will catch on - as you say. So I won't edit it.
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 03:23 PM
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20. I REALLY like "half a brian"!
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 03:24 PM by nm3damselfly
<BIGGRIN> :hi:

On Edit: Changed case in smily thing.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:35 PM
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6. It's a Bush family tradition to but a REALLY bad guy in the #2 seat
Remember Dan quayle!
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:42 PM
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8. That would be a dream!
Cheney (if he survived) would be a "president in a stockade," not just a lame duck. His party would be frantically trying to find a ticket for 2004, and Cheney would spend the remainder of Bush's illegitimate presidency in political purgatory.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:43 PM
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9. Cheney's the one on the hook here
Everyone knows he's behind the uranium thing. Steph and others hinted at it today, but no one has any real doubts. Proving it is another matter, but by the time anything close to impeachment happens, Cheney will be smoked out of his hole.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:43 PM
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10. It's not politically correct
to impeach him. When Clinton was impeached, his ratings went up... we don't want this now. If he gets reelected, it's more likely.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:45 PM
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11. There is not time to impeach him while he is still in office
The investigation would not be over until next year some time. I don't want him impeached. I want him in hand cuffs. I want the Republican party to get creamed in the general election and get back Congress. We can impeach him after he is out of office. And yes that can be done.

Don

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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:47 PM
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13. Me, too!
Oh, I hope you (and all the others) are RIGHT!
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 03:18 PM
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18. We should call for his resignation.
Because he lied about the causes for going to war - he no longer has credibility with Americans or others in the world.

If the US president doesn't have credibility we are fucked. We depend on that credibilty for our survival. He has squandered it.

We should call for resignation - NOW - before something serious does happen.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:45 PM
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Cheney's more implicated in this than Junior
Anything powerful enough to take one down would take them both.

As for impeachment, I've turned around on that. Sometimes unwinnable battles are the most important. Standing at the Alamo galvanized the Texans to mass and let 'em have it at San Jacinto.

Remember how many of the House Impeachment Managers were politically destroyed by going on an unpopular and unwarranted witch hunt: McCullom, Barr, Rogan and Gekkas are all deliciously gone, and the impeachment activities were a big deal for at least three of them. Forcing the fascists to deploy, take sides and defend themselves may leave them vulnerable.

It's quite possible that a simple majority IS possible in the Senate; if we can woo Ron Paul's splinter group and peel off a few vulnerable or "ethical" ones to boot, it's not that far out of reach. Finding 18 Republican Senators is another matter. Letting them know that we will not stand for this serves to slow them down.

Making the weak stand and take sides is a good thing when you're in the right. These people are thorough rotters.

"The essence of war is violence, and moderation in war is imbecility." Admiral Jacky Fisher, referring to submarine warfare
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:51 PM
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15. Good point!
"Making the weak stand and take sides is a good thing when you're in the right..."

Excellent point! This really gives me some perspective. Again, I had a moment of sheer panic resulting from reading a link someone else posted in LBN. The link was to CBS News about Tenet's mea culpa and the evidence that he had nixed the reference to uranium in Oct. 2002.

I really, REALLY needed some different perspective.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:45 PM
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12. READ THE ARTICLES FOR IMPEACHMENT
at
http://www.votetoimpeach.org

They impeach the ENTIRE administration so...................
IT WOULD BE "President Hastert".

OR "President DeLay"

TALK ABOUT EASY TARGETS!
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:48 PM
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14. Oh, right!
I've read these. Man, what a mess (the WH, that is)!
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:56 PM
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17. I wouldn't hold my breath
Look at how many thousands of American soldiers had to die before Clinton's blowjob finally came to light.
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kurtyboy Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 03:18 PM
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19. MT--perhaps you have some evidence nobody else knows about
Or perhaps you're being sarcastic, but as I understand it, the only troops to die on Clinton's watch were stationed in Somolia--placed in that peril by GHW Bush!

Other than that, there was the USS Cole Bombing, and then what? Hard to make the claim of thousands, I think.

Maybe you can provide some links....

Or maybe your stay here will be short....

Cheers
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