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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:59 AM
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We can't ignore that our nation is based on Christianity — not science."
Edited on Fri May-06-05 12:01 PM by Bandit
I thought this to be a very interesting quote by a Kansas School board member.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-evolution6may06,1,7929126.story?coll=la-
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:00 PM
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1. They're wrong though
"The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian religion."~George Washington
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:58 PM
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16. Ah you beat me to it...nt
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 01:07 PM
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18. Actually, that quote is attributable to Joel Barlow
the author of the Treaty of Tripoli. President John Adams signed the treaty and proclaimed it to the nation on 10 June 1797, "Now be it known, That I John Adams, President of the United States of America, having seen and considered the said Treaty do, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, accept, ratify, and confirm the same, and every clause and article thereof. And to the End that the said Treaty may be observed and performed with good Faith on the part of the United States, I have ordered the premises to be made public; And I do hereby enjoin and require all persons bearing office civil or military within the United States, and all other citizens or inhabitants thereof, faithfully to observe and fulfill the said Treaty and every clause and article thereof."
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:03 PM
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2. Jane - you ignorant slut.........
I can just hear Dan Aykroyd now.......

Well, there are indeed two Americas........
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cruadin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:06 PM
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3. I thought this country was founded on the priniple that...
"all men are created equal."

Cool eagle pic BTW.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:07 PM
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4. That's an intensely stupid remark. I think she confused the Bible
with American history. :eyes: We are doomed if more people like this get into power to influence the education of our kids.
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m0nkeyneck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:09 PM
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5. "I prayed, and God helped me decide"
how do you take someone like that seriously?
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bennywhale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:14 PM
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8. The British
state is based more on christianity than America and that is about as secular as they come.

Geobells once said that if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth.

"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give the appearence of solidity to pure wind" George Orwell
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:10 PM
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6. That must be why there are all those specific mentions of Jesus/The Bible
In our Constitution.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:12 PM
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7. Wrong! It was not based on Christianity. It was based on honor and wisdom
(boy, does that sound odd...)
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rabbit2484 Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:17 PM
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9. How can someone make that comment
and then support a war (I can only assume) to change a countries government?
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:19 PM
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10. These people wouldn't know their ass from a hole in the ground!
Anybody who has studied ANYTHING on the founders of our nation know that they were products of the Enlightenment. That was that period of about 200-300 years ago in which science and reason were actually promoted as an alternative to theocracy and ignorance, the mirror opposite of today.

These people and their willful ignorance make me just want to fucking SCREAM!!!!

:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:25 PM
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12. I hear you
Why don't some experts mention the Enlightenment more to counter this? I have a psych degree and I know of the Enlightenment. Sheesh, then again, psych folks now want to put Christianity into therapy.

http://www.apa.org/books/4316036.html
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:49 PM
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14. Cause that thar N-lighten-ment thingy was a librul conspiracy...
meant to turn Amurika away from Jesus and toward Satan and Godless communism. Plus, weren't the French involved in that? Anything French, we all know, is un-Amurikan.

Amurika has always been a Christian nation, no matter what anybody said about it otherwise.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:51 PM
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15. Amurika has always been a Christian nation,
Geronimo and Cochese would certainly agree with you.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:22 PM
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11. Tell a lie often enough and you will believe yourself even....
The fragile Human mind...given to delusion so easily....what to do? what to do?

Could it be we speak on differing levels of the same language? The Babelesque Syndrome....?
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bennywhale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:44 PM
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22. As Geobells put it
"if you tell the lie often enough it becomes the truth"

Repeat after me children "our country was based on............"

AAAAAh stop them
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MnFishhead Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:26 PM
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13. E-mail Kansas Board of Education
Let them know what you think of their Monkey Trial--and what you would do with a prospective employee whose resume says "educated in Kansas."

Here are their addresses:

martinkathy@yahoo.com, JWaugh1052@aol.com, MSGamble@swbell.net, krw@ourtownusa.net, JWMSBACON@aol.com, carolrupe@hotmail.com, bill.wagnon@washburn.edu, vanmeter@terraworld.net, conniemorris2010@yahoo.com, sabrams@hit.net
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:59 PM
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17. Mendel's Laws taught at Germany Zoo and America can't
even teach science in her schools without some dumb ass complaining.

At the Wilhelma Zoo in Stuttgart, Germany, there is a display-complete with white and black mice (and a breeding program in action)-to explain who Gregor Mendel was and what his laws meant.

I sat in front of this "mice" display so long, one other zoo-goer opined "she must really like mice" (another American tourist)

No...I was just amazed. My own country, America...what a sad state it is in...and here I was at a zoo in a country where science is embraced... where science is considered natural... where it's considered normal. Where science is acceptable.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 01:09 PM
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19. It's based on Socrates and Plato and the ideas of the...
...ancient Greek heathens, actually.

NGU.


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bennywhale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:41 PM
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21. which is what almost all western nations are based on
America isn't the exceptional special country we often make it out to be.

All the basis, and values that our country are based on is from European enlightenment thought, and most european countries are based on the same. We didn't invent democracy and freedom.

In fact i bet the repugs would love to deny that our constitution is was based on the french constitution.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 01:17 PM
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20. They keep saying it, but that in no way makes it true.
I wonder... Do the Christians pushing this "Intelligent Desgin" crap ever consider that I don't wish to have my children taught their religious beliefs? I don't want my children taught their Christian beliefs anymore than they would want their children taught my Pagan beliefs.

I think they should stop for a few minutes and truly consider the Pandora's Box before them.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:49 PM
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23. Now That's Disturbing.
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