Who's the CEO from "The Apprentice" who said "she's from Iowa"?

[Chicago1]

Dear All,

On last night's episode of "The Apprentice" one of the 4 CEO's that were called in to critique the candidates said of the woman who's from Iowa "she's from Iowa, she woudn't make it in Chicago or New York". Did anyone catch which company he's head of?????????????? This is part of the RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION that corporate america is practicing?

This would be a golden opportunity to call him out on it and let the rest of the world hear how he functions and the way he thinks.

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[Ravenseye]

1. I think it was the real estate guy

but I think you're overreacting. Those shows are HIGHLY edited. You don't know what he said before that or after that. To 'call someone out' for something they said that has been highly edited is kinda jumping the gun. For all you know he talked to Trump for an hour about how much he liked Tana, but just didn't think she could cut it in so many ways. They then edited it down to a 10 second snippet that you heard cause it makes good television.

[Chicago1]

6. Couldn't disagree with you more AND SO DO OTHERS

It sounds like others felt the same way too and other people also caught this RIDICULOUS remark.

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[Ravenseye]

29. Oh come on!

It's an EDITED TELEVISION SHOW not a live freaking feed. You think that's the real board room? You think that's all he said to Trump?

My first point is just that. If you want to get angry at someone get angry at the television show, not him. For all you know he's from Iowa himself or his wife is from Iowa and he's pissed at how they edited him as well. My point is that you don't know. You get an edited snipet and you jump up the guy's....

My second point is what did he say? He said "Tana is a nice woman from Iowa, but I don't think she'd cut it here in the big city"

How in the name of all that's holy is that a problem? My wife is a nice woman from Pennsylvania but she'd never cut it in New York. How is that a majorly riducluous remark? Maybe you disagree with his assessment. That's fine. I disagree with it as well. I think Tana COULD hack it. It's not sexist. The guy said he'd hire Kendra. It's anti-iowa?

Maybe it was edited and he said "Tana is a nice woman from Iowa, like me before my sex change operation, but I dont' think she'd cut it here in the big city because she mentioned all her family commitments back in Iowa and how often it'd take her back there and how she wouldn't have enough time to spend in New York City."

I mean...probably not, but we don't know do we.

[ernstbass]

2. That comment certainly caught my attention

[Kokonoe]

3. That was Howard M. Lorber

Chairman,Prudential Douglas Elliman Real Estate. He said "As it related to Tana. Listen she is a very nice woman from Iowa. I don't think she makes it in a big metropolitan city.New York Chicago or anywhere else that you'll have to be doing a project.

[fishwax]

23. that sounds fairly inoccuous

worded as you did in your post. It's a little different in tenor from what's in the OP (I don't watch the show, so I have no idea the exact words.)

But anyway, there are people from iowa that can't make it in nyc. I don't think pointing that out is terribly offensive. Of course, there are people in nyc or chicago who can't make it in Iowa, etc., either, b/c the required approach to people is vastly different.

[CornField]

4. Wow... I thought I left stereotyping when I left Oklahoma!

Guess not. LOL!

Tana isn't really from Iowa... she's from the Des Moines area. Most of the cornfield area wouldn't claim her as a "true" Iowan. ;) I doubt she's ever detasseled in her life!

:sarcasm:

[brystheguy]

14. I grew up in the corn and I claim her!

Especially when you move from Iowa, you claim anyone from Iowa as one of your own. If it gives me any more validity, I detasseled AND walked beans!

[Debi]

18. Never walked beans, I hope I can still be considered an Iowan

Been here 19 years, married to a native Iowan and gave birth to my son here in Iowa. When can I be considered 'from' Iowa?

I hope she gets it, just to prove that it doesn't matter where you're from, but how good you are that matters.

Can you imagine some guy from a little town in Arkansas EVER being President? :crazy:

[Debi]

17. The detasseling comment reminds me of my EX-husband

I'm originally from Montana and he said I wasn't an Iowan until I detasselled. :mad:

Meh - If you're not rural you're not an Iowan in Iowa. But if you are rural being from Iowa is bad in the Urban areas? Nobody will win with that attitude. :eyes:


(I think you were joking, but it's a sore point for me) :hi:

[enki23]

19. i never detasselled

but maybe that's becuase i grew up on an actual farm, and didn't have much time for that sort of "paying job" silliness in the summer. ;-)

[Debi]

21. Ha ha ha ha!

:rofl:

I did work for a living. Just fastfood and office work.

My Ex believed that if you didn't do manual labor you didn't do work. (His mom and dad had a farm - and we fed the hogs, cleaned out the barn (and ferrowing (sp) beds) (ewww)and fed the cattle. It made me realize how bad I wanted to be back inside!!!

So, I guess I'm a hick w/a mind for business and a bod for...business (with apologies to Melanie Griffith and Harrison Ford!)

[DinahMoeHum]

5. A few weeks ago, I finally broke down and watched an entire

episode. It turned out to be the episode where this woman from Iowa, Tana, was the "project manager" of the team that produced a winning concept for a new line of clothing. I recall what she said later...

"...I may be just a hick from the cornfield, but don't cross me; I'll take you down..." - or similar words to that effect.

BTW, if she wins this thing, I can easily see her working in Chicago. Closer to home and more of the "mid-western values of hard work paying off" and all that stuff.

Just my $0.02.

:smoke:

[tjwash]

15. Spent three hours and I can't get a hum from that...

dynamo--dynamo--dynamo--hummmmmmmmmm

Thanks a lot, I'm gonna have that song stuck in my head all day now :hippie:

[Chicago1]

7. Thanks for the responses. Other thoughts or observations

Thanks to everyone for the info and feedback. One more racist in our society who's a CEO.

Please keep contributing your thoughts and ideas. I'M TIRED of the racism in our society and ESPECIALLY IN NY!!!

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[Ravenseye]

30. Wait....

Are you saying the guy is a racist because he won't hire a white woman?

Wow. I don't even know how to take that. Seeing how I've personally been physically attacked multiple times in my life for my race/ethnicity, been profiled by law enforcement and had automatic weapons pointed at me as I was strip searched...simply for my race/ethnicity...Not been hired for a job, seen my father passed over from a big promotion because of our ethnicity...

But you're right. To not hire a white woman because she's not got the right temperment to work in New York City, in his opinion.

Pure Racism.

Let's get the bastard.

:sarcasm:

[Squatch]

8. Yeah, RACISM!

And they FIRED the ONLY black guy on the show. Racist bastards.

How dare they pick on the nearly 100% caucasian population of the upper midwest state of Iowa?



:banghead:

[CornField]

9. Now, now

We got a new shipment of ethnic folks just last week.

[Squatch]

10. South Dakotans are not "ethnic", per se.

[high density]

16. Yeah

'Cuz I never see job listings that say "local candidates only!"

[brystheguy]

11. That ticked off my wife and I too.

We're drafting a letter tonight. Why didn't he just say that Craig couldn't cut it because he's black? Same thing. Iowa people stand for good values and you will not find someone that will work harder. Also, did you hear that woman talk about how Tana had the responsibilities of being a mother and all? I didn't like that comment either!

Craig got canned because he doesn't have it. Period. When has he ever been impressive on that show?

[Squatch]

13. The box was kinda cool.

But if the extent of that guy's expertise is boxisms, I'm afraid he's kinda pegging himself pretty low on the corporate ladder.

[WillowTree]

25. I think you might have misunderstood that woman.

I just re-checked what she said on TiVo and this is a direct quote:

"At QVC the lady we would hire is Tana. Quite frankly, I was impressed with her entrepreneurial skills starting at nine years old when she borrowed $4000 and made twelve and remembered to pay that $4000 back, so I like the honesty of that as well. I believe that she is dealing with the reality of being both a wife, mother, and a businessperson."

It sounded much more to me as if she was saying that the she thinks that Tana understands the give-and-take between job and family that working mothers have to be able to deal with and can handle the schizophrenia that juggling those responsibilities usually entails. Anyway, that's the way I heard it. And if you've ever managed a department with 17 women who all had small kids and all wanted to take the morning of the first day of school off and had to administer written warning to three who took the time off despite the fact that they'd been told that it wasn't workable, you'll understand why that's a concern to some hiring managers.

[LibDemAlways]

12. It was a stupid comment, a polite way

of saying "She's from Iowa. She's a hick." It wasn't racism, though. It was elitism on his part.

[DemBeans]

20. good clarification

A white guy nattering about where a white girl is from isn't racism. I agree that elitism is the better term.

That said, if the guy excludes employees who weren't raised in large urban areas of the north, he must have a hard time recruiting, and he must miss out on some excellent employees. His own loss for being a dipshit.

[Debi]

22. More like close mindedness

Excluding anyone other than people like himself will only make his world smaller and smaller until someone in his world thinks he no longer belongs. Then he's on the outside looking in.

(Kind of like the Republican Party)

[onenote]

26. sort of like what some DUers do to Southerners

Maybe just a small minority, but nonetheless there are too many posts on this board that paint Southerners with a very broad and negative brush. I don't have any problem judging individuals but even in the red states there are plenty of progressive, talented, intelligent people.

onenote

[rinsd]

28. Southerners, anyone from a Red State, flyover country etc etc.....

...I have to say this thread made me laugh abit when some of the nastiest geographical stereotypes are a regular hit parade here on DU.

[WillowTree]

24. I think I know what they were talking about.

I trained in Chicago to be an underwriter for a major insurance company. Subsequently, I was transferred to Des Moines and, despite the fact that I was doing the exact same job for the exact same company, it might just as well have been a different planet in a lot of ways. It wasn't just that there were small variances in laws and requirements between Illinois and Iowa, the entire approach and underwriting culture was entirely different. Risks that no agent in Chicago would even submit because they knew that no underwriter would so much as consider at any price were fought for tooth-and-nail by the agents there and, by all indications, some underwriters could be bullied into accepting some of them. And just so it doesn't go out of context, some years later when I was working back in Chicago again, I experienced a similar syndrome when the company closed a downstate office that serviced mostly business from small towns and rural areas.

And conversely, at another time I worked with an underwriter who had transferred here from NYC and found that, as strict and unbending as the downstate agents thought me to be, I was a veritable pussycat compared to this woman. Talk about a hard-liner!

The fact is that the business atmosphere can be wildly different in the bigger cities and it can be very difficult for a person accustomed to one way of approaching things to make the adjustment from one to the other. At least I know that I wasn't able to make that jump. And Tana is considerably older and possibly more set in her ways than I was at 25 when I moved to Iowa. I'm thinking that that interviewer got the impression from things that she said that he didn't feel as if she had the kind of toughness or "crust" that he thinks is needed to make it in a New York business atmosphere.

I dunno. Maybe yes, maybe no. It's just another way to look at his comments and, of course, it's entirely possible that he pegged Tana all wrong, too.

[AspenRose]

27. Not exactly Iowa, but

Warren Buffet is from Omaha (NE) and he's done pretty well for himself.


Better than Trump has for himself, I might even argue.

So those midwestern values served him well.