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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 08:19 PM
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ANOTHER? The US Military Clears Itself Of More Charges Than The LAPD!!
Edited on Wed May-04-05 09:10 PM by DistressedAmerican
No wrongdoing in the shooting of the Italians. Here's another. Self defense claimed against a wounded iraqi lying unarmed on the ground when shot in the head??? Sickening!!!

These guys need civilian review boards!!!

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7738733/

Marine cleared in mosque shootings probe
Military concludes 3 unarmed insurgents were killed in self-defense

By Jim Miklaszewski
Correspondent
NBC News
Updated: 8:08 p.m. ET May 4, 2005The U.S. military has cleared a Marine who shot three unarmed, injured insurgents in a mosque at the height of fighting in Fallujah, Iraq, in November.

Marine commander Lt. Gen. John Sattler has ruled the soldier involved fired his weapon in self-defense — and no charges will be filed against him.

The shootings occurred at a mosque during an intense street-to-street battle for Fallujah. Caught on tape by an NBC camera, a squad of Marines entered the mosque to investigate reports of enemy gunfire. Inside, they found four enemy insurgents, wounded in a firefight the day before.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 08:22 PM
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1. what a hero. Hannity should have him on his show.
Edited on Wed May-04-05 08:23 PM by thebigidea
such bravery! shooting unarmed, wounded men...

at this point, someone will post a John Wayneish rant about how war is hell blah blah you can't comment until you've walked in their shoes blah blah its us or them blah blah it could've been a bomb blah blah.

well, save your outrage and go start a fan club for this hero.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 08:25 PM
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2. Sadly, It Would Not Surprise Me If They Do!
Pig Molesting Douchebag Network!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:04 PM
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3. Kicking!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 07:03 AM
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4. ....
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 08:04 AM
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6. Military "Justice" is the ultimate oxymoron.
Kinda reminiscent of the justice system in Mississippi during the civil rights struggle.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 08:24 AM
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7. Another Good Analogy. Criminals Investigating Themselves And Finding
nothing to complain about. Shocking.

Has anyone ever heard of a movement to establish civilian review boards for military cations? Many police departments have them and they work well. They increase the public's trust. The same dynamic could work in a military situation.

Right now, we just keep reinforcing their assumption that there will be no justice under an occupation.

We are not winning ANY "hearts and minds" over there folks. Time to come home!

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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 07:12 AM
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5. Self defense against what?
The wounded insurgent could bleed all over him??? :sarcasm:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 08:59 AM
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8. Pentagon investigations = cover-ups
The Pentagon has an exemplary record on investigating itself..not
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An example from the Gulf War, but anyone who knows some history from the Vietnam War knows the Pentagon was knee deep in cover-ups and lies then also. The only way to get any truth at all is through independent investigations.
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February 28, 1997

Military Lost Logs on Chemical Use in Gulf War, Pentagon Says

By PHILIP SHENON
WASHINGTON --
<snip>
In a new report on the missing logs, the Defense Department said its investigators had conducted an exhaustive search and had been able to track down only 36 pages of the estimated 200 pages of classified logs that were supposed to record any incident in which chemical or biological weapons were detected on the battlefield.

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The committee's ranking Democrat, Sen. John Rockefeller IV of West Virginia, said that "if the Pentagon had a shred of credibility left on the Persian Gulf war illness issue, the American people would be willing to stretch their imaginations enough to believe this latest tale -- sadly, the Pentagon has squandered the trust of the American people."

The gaps in the logs include the period from March 4 through March 10, 1991, when U.S. troops blew up an Iraqi ammunition depot that is now thought to have contained tons of nerve gas and other chemical weapons.

The 36 pages, which had previously been made public, demonstrate in meticulous detail how U.S. commanders received and disregarded several reports of chemical detections during the war.
..more..

http://www.turnerhome.org/jct/Clips/0228-nyt.htm


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Washington - Persian Gulf war veterans told a House subcommittee yesterday that they had been exposed to Iraqi chemical agents during Operation Desert Storm and criticized the Pentagon for denying their complaints.

"The Pentagon knew from Day One that chemical weapons were used," said Marine Corps Maj. Randy Herbert. "They have a reason to cover the truth. They have done so in the past with World War II and also with Agent Orange in Vietnam. They don't want to be held responsible for all the people who are now sick and the ones who have already died."

Herbert's words, difficult to understand because he has Lou Gehrig's disease, were relayed by his wife, Kim, and father, Lloyd, to the House Subcommittee on Human Resources and Intergovernmental Relations. He blames the disease, a nerve disorder, on low-level chemical exposure. ...

Earlier yesterday, the head of U.S. operations in the 1991 war, Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, repeated on NBC's "Today" that there is no evidence the Iraqis used chemical weapons and emphasized that "there was no cover-up on the part of the military." ...

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http://www.webcom.com/~lpease/collections/denied/gulfwar.htm

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:03 AM
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9. Great Post!
This is certainly nothing new.

That's why I have to ask why the hell nothing has been done about it? I'm stunned that we allow this to continue!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:10 AM
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10. just this morning I received this through
Edited on Thu May-05-05 09:11 AM by G_j
http://www.ProgressiveSecretary.Org.
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I urge you to appoint this special counsel without delay.

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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:26 AM
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11. it's such a farce
Edited on Thu May-05-05 09:27 AM by DemBeans
I saw this story on the news last night and was utterly disgusted, although not surprised. The only time they bust an enlisted guy is to protect the officer(s) above him.

Shooting a wounded, unarmed person used to be a war crime - but since we invaded an unarmed country, I suppose prosecuting this might hit a little close to home. I'm sickened by this, just sickened.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:57 AM
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12. they have proven their credibility is zero
over and over again. The trust has been shattered into a million pieces.
why do we let it continue?
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