Some thoughts from me with recent info on Blair/Bush

[FreedomAngel82]

I was last night laying in bed trying to sleep and just thinking about some things with the recent memo "leaked" (I wonder if it happened on accident or if someone found it and leaked it) about Blair/Bush. Here they are.

1) Why did he keep a memo of this event? Wouldn't he want to save his ass? Or since he knew it was all a fake he kept something in case he was caught so he could blame Bush?

2) If he knew it was faked all along and illegal why did he go along with it? Why didn't he say "fuck off" to Bush when it's clear his fellow citizen's didn't want to go to war and they knew the truth?

3) Do you think they'll bring Bush down and do they have that ability? I've always thought that if one of them goes down they'll bring the rest of them with them is what I thought.

4) When the memo is proven to be real do you think Blair will go to trial at the international courts like they did with Hitler and his Nazi troopers?

5) If it's true about the memo and he is re-elected what would happen to him?

Thanks and I hope to hear from others on these question's.

[marmar]

1. Interesting questions...

What I can't figure out is what Tony Blair thought he was going to gain by going along with this, except maybe some new oil exploration possibilities for British oil companies. Bush already was deeply unpopular in Britain, there was deep opposition among Britons, ideologically (or so it would seem, at least) his Labour party was far removed from the fundamentalist neocon freaks dominating the Bush administration ... I just don't understand why he jumped into this mess.

:wtf:

[FreedomAngel82]

2. I don't get it either

Did they blackmail him? Did they have something for him to give? Why was he such an idiot on this? He seems like a smart politician other wise. :shrug:

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. Blair did it because he doesn't like Saddam

and he likes being on the side of the powerful, who can ignore international law when it suits them. What the memos show (which are kept as a matter of course - Blair didn't consider that he was committing a crime at the time, though he wouldn't expect them to be leaked) is that to Blair, international law is a tool - to be used to influence British public opinion where possible, or to be gamed if needed. Blair won't obey international law just for the sake of it - just like he, and most politicians, won't tell the truth just for the sake of it. They'll lie quite happily if that suits their purposes better.

This will have no appreciable effect on Bush. Bush has already expressed his contempt for international law in public, and the American public didn't give a shit. He constantly called for regime change. No-one objected.

Blair won't go to trial at the ICC. British courts will always get a crack at him first, and there just isn't the will to get him convicted. His lawyers would be able to go on endlessly about what the real intention was, claim that he honestly believed Saddam had WMD, etc. The majority of people, including me, may believe that he went to war with the primary objective of illegal regime change, but it's not provable beyond all reasonable doubt.

Realistically, the memo will have little effect after the election. The Welsh and Scottish nationalists may bring back their impeachment motion, but so far the Lib Dem leadership has shown no interest in it - and it won't get anywhere without one of the large parties supporting it.

[FreedomAngel82]

4. That's what gets me

All these people are getting away with murder! These people should be in jail!! It's just hard to wrap my brain around it.