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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 10:53 PM
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HOLY SHEEPLE SHIT! Even Andy the Sully has woken up (a bit)!
IN THE GRIP OF A "THEOCRACY"?

But one element of our politics - one that happens to have a veto on
Republican social policy - does hold that religion should dictate politics, and that opposition to a certain politics is tantamount to anti-religious bigotry. They're very candid about that, as we saw last Sunday. As Bill Donahue put it: "The people on the secularist left say we think you're a threat. You know what? They are right." Very senior Republicans echo the line that there is a filibuster against "people of faith." This isn't just about gays, although we've felt the sting of the movement more acutely than most. It's about science, stem cell research, the teaching of evolution, free access to medical prescriptions, the legality of living wills, abortion rights, censorship of cable and network television, and so on. The Schiavo case woke a lot of people up. I was already an insomniac on these issues.

Maybe I'd be more effective a blogger if I pretended that none of this was troubling, or avoided the gay issue and focused on others. But I'm genuinely troubled by all of it, and by what is happening to the conservative tradition. I'd like to think that a qualified doctor like Bill Frist could say on television that tears cannot transmit HIV. But he could not - because the sectarian base he needs to run for president would not allow it. I'm sorry but that's nuts.

http://www.andrewsullivan.com/

Yeah, Sully. It IS nuts. THEY are nuts. Glad you've finally decided to wake the hell up somewhat. Welcome to the world of REALITY.

GAY TORIES:

Just look at how Britain's Conservative party has embraced gay unions, openly gay soldiers, and included gay candidates and moved past prejudice.

Why cannot the Republicans be as grown up?

http://www.andrewsullivan.com/

Because they're ignorant childish little morans, Sully. Got it yet?

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 10:57 PM
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1. Sully's mistake:
he came over here looking for Tories and though he found them in the repukes.

No comparison at all. Tories are generally not savages. Repukes have become savages.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:18 PM
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2. Oh, please Sully.
What the hell did you think you've been supporting all these years? Now that the group you allied with has gained power and has started inacting their agenda, you are shocked, shocked you tell us?

Phooey on ya. Get some pastry already.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:20 PM
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3. Too little. Too late. WAY too f*cking late.
Free America is little more than a memory...a myth.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:38 PM
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4. Agreed.
Edited on Fri Apr-29-05 11:39 PM by Stirk
People like Sullivan rode the hate train as far as they could. They're only now getting jittery, because they're beginning to realize that they aren't very important to the "conservative movement" anymore.

I'd love to say, "welcome aboard! Let's fix this mess!". But y'know- I think they may have broken the system beyond the point of repair. At least, it's in such a steep nosedive that the only way to charge course now is to hit rock bottom, and we aren't even close yet.

Congratulations, Mr. Sullivan. You've won, you fucking tool.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:43 PM
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6. He's jumping on the anti wingnut bandwagon
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:41 PM
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5. He's still wrong
...on Iraq.

He's still deluded that Iraq is going be be a "Democracy".
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