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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:11 PM
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The final explanation of what the war is all about (large pic)
Only so much fuel left to keep the lights going.

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:15 PM
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1. Great point.
I thought we tried to do better before? What happened? Jimmy Carter? He tried.
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Lydia Guerra Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:32 PM
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12. Remember the Carter Doctrine?
Check this out:
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1983/jan-feb/grinter.html

It would be good to do some historical research and serious thinking about where we are now and how we got here. Who, along the way, has helped GW get to Iraq - we might be surprised. History and politics can always be re-interpreted and manipulated to justify and pursue the current greed for power ...

Here are some quotes:
"ON 23 January 1980, in his State of the Union Address, President Jimmy Carter announced a new American policy that came to be called the Carter Doctrine. Referring to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Mr. Carter warned that:

"An attempt by an outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.1 ...

"How do we measure the success or failure of the Carter Doctrine? One way of evaluating its effectiveness, or at least the acceptability of the doctrine, is to examine the Reagan administration’s policies toward the Persian Gulf and Southwest Asia. Clearly, in spite of the collapse of U.S. policy in Iran, the broader actions which President Carter finally ordered--a toughened stance toward the Soviets, a search for new military facilities in and around the Gulf, an increased emphasis on the Rapid Deployment Force, and the attempt to rescue the hostages--generally coincided with Mr. Reagan’s thinking. Mr. Carter’s reluctant shift toward an incipient intervention strategy in the Gulf also had the tacit approval of the American public. ..."

The article is by:
Lawrence E. Grinter (B.S., University of Florida; M.A., Ph.D., University of North Carolina) is Professor of National Security Affairs, Air Command and Staff College, Air University. His previous assignments include professorships at Air War College and National War College.

At the end, he quotes:
"What is freedom? Freedom is the right to choose: the right to create for oneself the alternatives of choice. Without the possibility of choice and the exercise of choice a man is not a man but a member, an instrument, a thing.

How shall freedom be defended? By arms when it is attacked by arms; by truth when it is attacked by lies; by democratic faith when it is attacked by authoritarian dogma. Always, and in the final act, by dedication and faith."

Archibald MacLeish (1892-1982)
A Declaration of Freedom








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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:37 PM
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13. I was actually
referring to the movement to conserve energy.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:16 PM
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2. I'm the dark area northeast of the light blur that is DFW
we don't have outside lights, and can actually see the stars at night.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:18 PM
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4. I'm just below you
in Rowlett-- eastern Dallas.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:23 PM
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9. Our farm is like that
and we can't wait to live out there where there are not lights everywhere. The neighor just put up a Mercury Vapor light and we are annoyed but other than that it is pretty dark. The milky way is amazing to look at in dark sky sites. I feel so lucky.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:16 PM
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3. I think I see my house
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:19 PM
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7. Shit... that's what I was going to say...
Damn you, Pitt!:D
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:21 PM
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8. It must be the one with all the lights on
:evilgrin:
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:18 PM
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5. Hey! That's my dual monitor wallpaper!
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Lydia Guerra Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:18 PM
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6. OMG!!
That is excellent.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:26 PM
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10. Awesome
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 07:11 PM
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16. Japan sure looks
MAXED OUT!
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:30 PM
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11. Awesome picture. Thanks for posting. n/t
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:41 PM
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14. Scroll the photo to the right and you see why UK was a willing participant
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:47 PM
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15. Good Lawd!!! The earth is turning into a star!!!!
What a spectacular photo!!!

WOW!!
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 07:16 PM
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17. Early evening vanity kick
:evilgrin:
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