Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

FAIR Alert: Did MSNBC Know Liddy's History?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:34 PM
Original message
FAIR Alert: Did MSNBC Know Liddy's History?
FAIR-L
Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting
Media analysis, critiques and activism

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2505

ACTION ALERT:
Did MSNBC Know Liddy's History?
Host Once Advocated Killing Government Agents

April 29, 2005

In an April 27 debate about extreme talk radio rhetoric, MSNBC's
Scarborough Country turned to an unusual guest: right-wing talker G.
Gordon Liddy, who ten years ago called for the killing of federal agents.

The purpose of the MSNBC segment was to discuss a skit from Air America's
Randi Rhodes Show (4/25/05). The pre-recorded segment, about an "American
Association of Armed Retired People," included the sound of gunfire as the
"answer" to Bush's Social Security plans. Both Rhodes and Air America
quickly apologized for the skit. "Our normal vetting process failed....
and we regret it," Air America president of programming Jon Sinton told
the New York Post (2/28/05).

On MSNBC, host Joe Scarborough turned to Liddy for his response to this
incident, asking: "G. Gordon Liddy, are conservatives guilty of similar
hate speech on their shows?"

Liddy's response: "Well, if they are, I certainly haven't heard of it."

That would mean that Liddy has not listened to his own program. On August
26, 1994, Liddy told his radio listeners: "Now if the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist
them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing
bulletproof vests." Liddy's advice that day was explicit: "They've got a
big target on there, ATF. Don't shoot at that, because they've got a vest
on underneath that. Head shots, head shots.... Kill the sons of bitches."

This was far from an isolated incident. On September 15, 1994, for
example, Liddy told his listeners: "If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember,
they're wearing flak jackets and you're better off shooting for the head."
The theme was repeated so often that Liddy's callers began to exclaim
"head shots!" to express their agreement with the host, the way Rush
Limbaugh's callers say "megadittos."

After Liddy's talk of shooting federal agents received media attention, in
the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing (London Independent, 4/24/95), some
stations dropped Liddy's program. In a press conference responding to the
controversy (Associated Press, 4/25/95), Liddy clarified his advice by
noting that shooting a federal agent in the head might not be the ideal
plan: "So you shoot twice to the body, center of mass, and if that does
not work, then shoot to the groin area."

Liddy's history was inexplicably absent from the MSNBC segment, though
fellow guest Michael Harrison of Talkers magazine seemed to allude to it
at one point: "Mr. Liddy has had his own experiences being misunderstood
in the media and being called a hate talkshow host when, in fact, he is
quite a nice gentleman, and I defended him at that time."

Whether or not Liddy is a nice guy, the real question is whether MSNBC was
aware that one of its guests in a discussion about extreme rhetoric on the
radio was one of the most infamous purveyors of such talk-- advocating
anti-government violence not in a single failed attempt at humor, but as
serious advice, regularly repeated.

MSNBC's panel also displayed a remarkable ignorance about right-wing talk
radio. After playing a clip of Rhodes referring to Bush as "George
Satan," Scarborough posed the question: "Is that what it takes, Mr. Liddy,
to succeed in talk radio, whether you are a liberal or a conservative?"
Liddy replied, "No, I don't think it is at all. I have succeeded without
averting to things like that, and so have people like Sean and
Rush and what have you."

The notion that right-wing talk radio does not resort to name-calling,
like comparing political opponents to the devil, is frankly absurd;
Limbaugh, for one, routinely called Democratic Sen. Tom Daschle "El
Diablo" (American Prospect, 12/3/02; see also:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1860 .)


ACTION:
Let Scarborough Country know that G. Gordon Liddy's advocacy of shooting
federal agents should have been disclosed in a segment about violent talk
radio rhetoric.

CONTACT:
MSNBC
Scarborough Country
mailto:joe@msnbc.com

As always, please remember that your comments have more impact if you
maintain a polite tone.

For more on Liddy's record, see:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1313

----------
Your donation to FAIR makes a difference:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=103
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:42 PM
Response to Original message
1. And they call Hillary "Hitlery" and refer to feminists as Nazis.
Which is apparently different, somehow.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. and apparently
you can advocate killing government agents and get a job pontificating about "hate speech".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 04:24 PM
Response to Original message
2. So, is Libby a terrorist?
"...Head shots, head shots.... Kill the sons of bitches."

I mean, I was just reading about a fifty-year-old teacher who was strip searched for carrying a small, mild protest sign. Yet, the rightwing has been threatening everyone to the left of their righteous selves for years - with impunity. Isn't it terrorism to be running around threatening to kill judges and other public officials?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. where'd that happen?
If you kill people with your bombs, you're not called a terrorist and are handled nicely. But knock in an AHNULD HUMMAH or run off with lipsticked rhesus monkeys and you may as well have flown those planes into the towers yourself!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 05:00 PM
Response to Original message
5. How could MSNBC not know Liddy's history?
That's like MTV not knowing that R Kelly and Michael Jackson like them young.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 12:39 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC