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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 02:10 PM
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Posada has something on Bush, says expert on Kennedy case
JEAN-GUY ALLARD

WIM Dankbar, a Dutch specialist on the assassination of John F. Kennedy, suspects that Luis Posada Carriles has highly discriminating evidence against Bush Sr. that could be divulged if the terrorist should die a suspicious death.

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But Holt, according to the expert, was also a CIA operative. His instructions for Dallas came from his undercover CIA supervisor Philip Twombly of the Fullerton Bank in California. Those instructions were specifically to make and deliver secret service credentials to a rabid anti-Castro militant called Homer Echevarría, who was a close associate of Cuban exile leader Paulino Sierra . Holt further relates that he made ID cards in the names of Lee Harvey Oswald, Lee Henry Oswald, Leon Oswald, Leon Osborne and Alek Hidell.

Furthermore he drove to Dallas from Licavoli’s Arizona ranch in the company of Leo Moceri and Charles Nicoletti, both hitmen for mafia moguls Giancana and Licavoli. Holt’s testimony on the Kennedy plot is therefore clear evidence of collaboration between the CIA, organized crime and the Cuban exile community, with the consent of high-level officials in the US government. Dankbaar points out that mafia boss Sam Giancana’s biography - edited by his brother - discloses the role played by two buddies of former Havana chief Santos Trafficante, one of which could perfectly be Posada, according to the description given.
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“Remember how CIA drug smuggler and Iran-Contra operative Barry Seal was gunned down? If you believe his lawyer, Seal was in direct contact with George Bush. And the personal telephone number of George H. W. Bush was found in the trunk of Seal's car. They blamed his murder on the Medellin cartel, but he was scheduled to testify and there were a lot of rumors that he had a video tape featuring Jeb and George W. Bush."

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“Of course. The man that Bush selected has been part of CIA efforts to overthrow the Castro regime and assassinate its leader," Dankbaar confirms. “Goss is the ideal man to keep possible scandals under the carpet for Bush and in particular, for his father. The two of them are both accomplices in the same history. ” •

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http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2005/abril/vier29/19kennedy.html
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 02:15 PM
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1. Posada?


I didn't know he was in the loop.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:02 PM
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6. Heheh...
was my first thought too :)

Sid
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 02:17 PM
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2. discriminating ?
discriminating evidence? How's that work?
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 02:17 PM
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3. The mods rock
Edited on Fri Apr-29-05 02:26 PM by Caution
Thanks for moving this out of Breaking News.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:18 PM
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8. I'm so glad to hear you are feeling better now
:shrug:
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:26 PM
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10. why not breaking news?
Because it's a Cuban source?

Just wondering.
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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 02:45 PM
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4. Reading this reminds me,
of the scene in Wilson & Shea's Leviathan, I think it was, where one assassin in Dealy plaza, after sighting JFK and readying for the shot, gets beaten to the punch, so to speak, and sees JFK's head explode in his scope. Then fire opens up from a second direction, and the would-be assassin wonders just how many groups are there in the vicinity of that Dallas overpass on that day to off the president.

Thanks for posting, too bad it didn't get by the LBN sensors.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 02:59 PM
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5. al bupp! Whose hemisphere is it anyway?
Edited on Fri Apr-29-05 03:00 PM by seemslikeadream
I have missed you.



Do you know this man?



That's Luis Posada Carriles, described by Gary Webb in Dark Alliance as a "veteran CIA agent with a history of involvement with drug traffickers, mobsters, and terrorists." He was investigated by the Justice Department in 1967 for "moonlighting" - so says a memo in his CIA file - for Santos Trafficante. (Posada had been supplying the Miami mob with explosives, silencers and hand grenades.)

The next year the agency transferred him to South America, where he went to work for Venezuelan intelligence. In 1973 Posada was placed under surveillance by the DEA when it received reports that he was the "main contact" in a major cocaine smuggling enterprise that involved elements of the Venezuelan government. A year later the DEA learned Posada was dealings weapons for drugs with a man believed "involved in political assassinations."

Officially, the CIA terminated its association with Posada in February, 1976.

Do you know what he did next?

It was midday on that Wednesday, October 6, 1976. The aircraft commenced the maneuver of revving its four engines, and cutting off the auxiliary ignition motors. A few minutes later it cruised along the runway and took off in a smooth but rapid ascent.

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At 12:23 p.m. the cry of "Look out!" could be heard over the radio and seconds later the co-pilot informed: "There’s been an explosion and we’re coming down right now, we have a fire on board." The passenger plane was 28 miles from Seawell aerodrome and the radar screen showed it making a wide turn to the right to return to the terminal area.

After flying back 10 miles the crew asked for an immediate landing and just before 12:27 the co-pilot was heard shouting: "Close the door! Close the door!" Smoke was emanating from a section of the wing adjacent to the third engine. Nevertheless, the crew decided to release the landing equipment and utilize the flaps to increase the sustaining force of the glide and avoid a crash.

In these circumstances they were able to maintain control of the plane until a second detonation in the area of the toilets in the back part of the fuselage affected the control system by destroying or changing the configuration of the helm.

This provoked a violent lift of the plane’s nose that prompted the co-pilot to shout: "That’s worse! Stick to the water, Fello, stick to the water!" in the belief that the flight captain had shifted the controls toward himself in order to gain height.

A total silence reigned in the Seawell flight control tower: the profile of the CUT-1201 was lost for ever from the air controller’s radar screen as the plane nose-dived into the sea with 73 people on board.

Posada was arrested by Venezuelan authorities for the bombing of the airliner. (In Cocaine Politics, Peter Dale Scott writes that "Posada also had materials in his possession linking him to the assassination of former Chilean ambassador Orlando Letelier in Washington, DC, a month before the Cubana Airlines bombing.") He spent ten years in custody, only to escape shortly before his long-delayed trial.

And do you know where he surfaced?

El Salvador, where he served as second-in-command to old friend and terrorist Felix Rodriguez at the critical Iran/Contra cocaine resupply hub of Ilopango Air Force Base. "With men like Luis Posada...running things at Ilopango," Webb writes, "it's little wonder DEA agent Castillo was hearing rumors about drug trafficking." At a Guatemala City embassy reception in 1986 Vice President Bush asked the agent what he was up to, and "Castillo replied that he was investigating cocaine trafficking in El Salvador. He advised the vice president that 'there's some funny things going on with the Contras at Ilopango.' Bush, Castillo says, smiled at him knowingly and walked away." (From Cockburn and St Clair's Whiteout.)

In 2000 Posada was arrested in Panama for his role in yet another attempted assassination of Fidel Castro, this time during the 10th Ibero-American Summit. The plan called for the detonation of eight kilograms of C-4 plastic explosive in a public auditorium. Posada was pardoned by former Panamanian president Mireya Moscoso and fled to Florida.

If this world were irretrievably unjust that would be the end of the story, maybe punctuated by a few more explosions and kilos of cocaine. But we still have the odd glimmer of hope for happy endings. Or better yet, happy beginnings. And what happened next could be either.

Venezuela high court moving to extradite Miami Cuban militant

CARACAS, Venezuela -- Venezuela's Supreme Court has begun processing an extradition request for a Cuban militant believed to be seeking asylum in Miami, the court announced Thursday.

The Supreme Court began processing the request on Wednesday for the extradition of Luis Posada Carriles, who is wanted in Venezuela for treason and for a 1976 Cuban airliner bombing that killed 73 people, according to a statement released by the tribunal's press office.

Posada, a Cuban native with Venezuelan citizenship, was tried and acquitted twice in Venezuela in the 1976 Cubana Airlines bombing. He is wanted for escaping from prison in Venezuela in 1985 while awaiting a prosecutor's appeal in that case.

The Attorney General's Office in Venezuela announced Tuesday that steps were being taken to request Posada Carriles' extradition.

I'm not kidding myself. I expect the likelihood of the US sending Posada to Venezuela to be on par with Michael Meiring's chances of being returned to the Philippines. But there's justice being done in the mere attempt. Because even if it fails, it's a further unveiling of the sham that serves as the bully's moral high ground. ("We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.")

Speaking of which - do you know this woman?



Secretary of State Rice has been criss-crossing Latin America this week in a bid to immunize against the spread of the Venezuelan infection. In an interview with Colombia's Casa Editorial El Tiempo she said "we have no problem with the Venezuelan people." But. And as usual, it's a big one:

...this is about the behavior of the regime, both in terms of its domestic -- where domestically, where it has had very bad relations with the press -- where the ability for people to oppose the regime, where there needs to be a sense that the democratic institutions are being protected, and the questions about the behavior and the activities of the Venezuelan regime in the region.

But this is not just an issue between the United States and Venezuela. This is an issue of what kind of hemisphere is this going to be. Is it going to be a hemisphere that is democratic and that is prosperous and where neighbors get along, where neighbors don't interfere in each other's affairs, where people fight drug trade and fight terrorism together actively? That's the kind of hemisphere that we're trying to build and I believe that we have the cooperation and the support of almost all of the states of this region who want to see the same kind of hemisphere.

Which hemisphere, again, is Luis Posada Carriles'?

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/04/whose-hemisphere-is-it-anyway.html

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:12 PM
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7. Venezuelan justice starts extradition proceedings for Luis Posada Carriles
Prensa Latina reports that Venezuela's Supreme Court of Justice Criminal Division has begun to consider a request for the extradition of terrorist of Cuban origin Luis Posada Carriles, who is seeking political asylum in the US.

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The request was made as soon as the President Hugo Chavez announced the decision to seek extradition of the criminal, who escaped from a Venezuelan jail in 1985. Posada had been under arrest in Caracas for his participation in the bombing of a Cuban civil airplane in 1976, in which 73 people of different nationalities lost their lives.

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In the opinion of Chavez and other Venezuelan authorities, the granting of political asylum to the criminal would violate UN principles and international agreements, and would contradict Washington's stated determination to fight terrorism.
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http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=32188
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:22 PM
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9. DREAM POLICE


The dream police, they live inside of my head.
The dream police, they come to me in my bed.
The dream police, they’re coming to arrest me, oh no.

You know that talk is cheap, and those rumors ain’t nice.
And when I fall asleep I don’t think I’ll survive the night, the night.

’cause they’re waiting for me.
They’re looking for me.
Ev’ry single night they’re driving me insane.
Those men inside my brain.

The dream police, they live inside of my head.
(live inside of my head.)
The dream police, they come to me in my bed.
(come to me in my bed.)
The dream police, they’re coming to arrest me, oh no.

Well, I can’t tell lies, ’cause they’re listening to me.
And when I fall asleep, bet they’re spying on me tonight, tonight.

’cause they’re waiting for me.
They’re looking for me.
Ev’ry single night they’re driving me insane.
Those men inside my brain.

I try to sleep, they’re wide awake, they won’t leave me alone.
They don’t get paid to take vacations, or let me alone.
They spy on me, I try to hide, they won’t let me alone.
They persecute me, they’re the judge and jury all in one.

’cause they’re waiting for me.
They’re looking for me.
Ev’ry single night they’re driving me insane.
Those men inside my brain.

The dream police, they live inside of my head.
The dream police, they come to me in my bed.
The dream police, they’re coming to arrest me.

rick nielsen
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:40 PM
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11. Maybe Poppy would like to explain THIS!
This FBI memo from 22 November 1963 shows George Herbert Walker Bush reported his suspicions (evidently a red herring) within MINUTES of President Kennedy's death:



This FBI memo from 29 November 1963 shows J Edgar Hoover was briefed by a "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency" about the pro- and anti-Castro Cuban communities regarding the assassination:



SOURCE:

http://www.internetpirate.com/bush.htm

Those interested in political conspiracy and treason need remember one name: BUSH.

DU's on to you, Poppy!

Ha ha ha ha (maniacal patriotic laugh)!!!!
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