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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:08 PM
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My brother has given up...
his party affiliation that is.

He's a couple years younger than me and has been a registered repuke all his life. Although he's volunteered some of his time here and there to work for the party, I've never been convinced he believed even 10% of the crap they stand for. Perhaps he did, since we've never really talked about it.

So I don't turn this into a story of our lives...lol

He called a few minutes after * finished his dog and pony show tonight and basically said he is changing his affiliation tomorrow morning and that he wants me to go to the board of elections with him. He told me the direction, or lack thereof, of the repukes has been troubling him for quite a while and that tonight's mockery of a news conference pushed him over the edge...he actually expressed remorse for voting straight party repuke in the last election.

Just wanted to share that good news with everyone. It seems odd this would be the event that turned things around for my brother, but I'll take it.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:10 PM
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1. does he live in a red state?

www.cafepress.com/showtheworld
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:12 PM
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7. Yes, North Carolina
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:54 AM
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48. I know some good people in that state!
Republicans are not immune to thinking for themselves. They've been lied to and taken advantage of in worse ways than even the DEMs.

They lied to the people who voted for them and they have betrayed the very values that they claim to support.

I know when the truth gets fully out there will be a lot of Republicans who even if they don't change parties will make sure no rat bastards like this crew ever slink into office again without a knock down drag out.

Can you imagine if the situation were reversed and we had DEMs doing this to US? And Republican's like their guns so much...

Maybe they will just line up all the neo-con traitors in their party and march them onto a boat and send them to Guantanamo Bay to think about their mis-deeds.


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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 08:57 AM
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51. Where? I live here and will personally shake his hand!
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:20 PM
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16. my daughter has that bumpersticker
has gotten honks !
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:10 PM
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2. That is such good news
There have got to be lots more like him.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:19 PM
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30. Yeah, I guess it's a blessing and a curse in the state I live. I live
in Virginia, and when we register to vote, we do not have to give a party affiliation unless we want to. It's great for some "covert" (lol) snooping; however, you never know what side you are talking to when you talk politics, that is until people start getting defensive.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:10 PM
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3. The straw that broke the camel's back, eh?
Good for your bro!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:11 PM
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4. Awesome.. I wish my parents would wise up like your bro.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:13 PM
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11. My parents are the same as yours...they are brainwashed.
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BillyMtn Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:36 PM
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34. parents
The fact that your parents have different opinions doesn't mean they're brainwashed.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:39 PM
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36. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:44 PM
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40. No shit. But what do you know about his parents?
BTW, Welcome to DU! :hi:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 08:20 AM
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50. Hi BillyMtn!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:37 PM
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35. They will when they find out they have to pay for their medical bills
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 11:37 PM by Rainscents
You should send via email them medicaid program cut... and thell them, medicare is next.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:11 PM
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5. Good to hear.
One by one, that's the only way.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:12 PM
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6. Thanks, SunDrop23! Great news! Please
invite him to DU for further clarification! :evilgrin:
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:13 PM
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10. Will do! Thanx!
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:13 PM
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8. thanks for sharing
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 09:13 PM by sad_one

The news of your bro's conversion and the discovery of an ivory-billed woodpecker is the only good news I heard today

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:15 PM
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29. They found an ivory-billed woodpecker?
Thanks. I missed that story.
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 02:32 PM
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52. Yup. All these years they thought they were extinct.

And now they turn up hale and healthy.

So it makes one wonder....is it possible that democracy in America isn't extinct yet either?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:13 PM
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9. It sure was a mockery of a news conference. It was a stump speech,
interrupted by a few questions.

Kudos to your bro!

:kick:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:14 PM
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12. People are going into Republican rehab every day.
Everyday Randi Rhodes gets several callers who say that they can't accept what Repuke stands for anymore and they are unjoining the Party.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:19 PM
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14. I've heard a few on Big Ed's show.....he's a convert himself.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:11 PM
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26. Ed replayed his conversion speech today.
Yesterday someone asked him about his conversion from Kool aid drinker to Liberal. It sounded like he is a recent convert. He agreed with everyone when they said, "Let's all get together and hate Hillary."
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:09 PM
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25. Yay!
I love this! Did that happen any today? I'll have to listen to the archive.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:19 PM
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13. wow. that is great news

all i know is that my repuke husband didn't watch the press conference tonight and he is usually slavish on those. he's not listening to much talk radio any more either. sadly, he will never be as enlightened as your brother.

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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:19 PM
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15. Don't give up hope!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:20 PM
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17. We had an
LTTE like that just this morning. It is nice to hear, thanks.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:28 PM
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18. It's good to hear he's coming in from the Cold, SunDrop.
I hope you'll invite him to visit DU. :)
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:29 PM
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19. Will do!
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:41 PM
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39. Makes me wonder if DU should have a "recent convert"
forum - where people who are just fed up with the Repugs could just spew. But, being used to a "ditto-head" mentality, they might not be quite ready for some of the open, fiery debates here on DU until they've had time to accustom themselves to - shall I say it - Independent Thought.

We want them to engage, but we don't want to scare them off.

I'm not sure I explained it very well - does anyone understand what I'm trying to say?
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:48 PM
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20. Would he be willing to talk to others
of a similar persuasion, maybe people he hung out with, and explain to them his reasons for leaving the war criminals in the hopes of getting them to reconsider their affiliations?
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:12 PM
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27. I'm going to encourage him to do so.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:49 PM
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21. Wonderful!! Wonder how many have left the GOP in
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 09:50 PM by ailsagirl
the last four years?? Guess there's no real way to track it.

Congrats on your brother's seeing the light!!
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:26 PM
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22. It's nice for another reason--it will bring you two closer together.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:22 PM
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31. That's an excellent point.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:57 PM
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23. that's a bit of good news
I hope it is being duplicated around the country tonight!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:04 PM
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24. Oh wow
I'm really surprised. I wonder how many other people have left the republican party?? Only thing now is to get people out to vote in 2006.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:13 PM
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28. Yes and we also need.....
We need to get them out to vote, but we also need to take the hijackery of the voting boxes.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:25 PM
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32. Yes! That's how we will win, one at a time.
We can't open everyone's eyes at once. We have to open them up to the truth one at a time.

The Repugs are doing most of our job for us by their own dishonesty. We just have to make sure we remain honest in our message.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:33 PM
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33. In my neck of the swamp, I'm hearing this on a weekly basis now.
Thanks for posting. :)

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:45 AM
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45. Really?
Where are you at? After the election I saw tons of W stickers (I'm in Tn) but now days I don't see quite as much. :shrug:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 01:05 AM
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49. You mean, "way'at?"
:D N'awlins brah. ;)

When the draft is initiated, watch how many converts there'll be nationwide. :)
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:39 PM
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37. Great feeling, isn't it.
I remember when my husband finally changed his registration. We were still dating at that point, but he;d never dated such a "firery liberal" before. He was already just barely hanging on rethug, but the day he said, "I'm going to change my registration," was such a great feeling. His parents are not happy- but mine are estatic!

Congratulations! And say "hi" to your brother from his new friends at DU!
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:40 PM
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38. ... and tell your brother we're nicer than rethugs, too!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:45 PM
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41. God bless him. Tell him people in Alaska are applauding him right now.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:46 PM
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42. For older parents who are Repblicans... they will switch when they get
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 11:46 PM by Rainscents
the wind of cut to Medicaid and Medicare. I truly believe, this will set them over the edge for lot of them. They know, when they have to sell their house to pay for their medical bills, this is not good.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:48 AM
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46. Yep
I think so too. My grandparents are republicans and voted for Kerry this past election. My grandfather isn't much of a Bush fan at all. He thinks he's a moron but he loves FDR. We visited them earlier this month and he talked about his memories of FDR as president and had sparkles in his eyes. ;) When he talks about Bush it's like a "good grief" type of thing.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:29 AM
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43. I know a bunch of lifelong Republicans who hate Bush
The only people I know who still support Bush are nuts -- paranoids and authoritarians.

I know proud lifelong Republicans who recoil from him. Real conservatives who despise him. People of deep faith who are appalled by him. And they hate him with the same level of emotion that I have for the man. None of them voted for him in 2004, and curse themselves for having voted for him in 2000, but say the man they thought they voted for is not the man they actually got. None though, as far as I am aware, have changed party affiliation. They're intensely relieved when they find out exactly why I despise him, because they have made the same observations.

I've been wondering for a while -- gee, how did this guy win in 2004, because I know a LOT of Republicans who did not vote for him, who voted against him, who had voted for him in 2000. Aside from the issue of voting fraud, the only thing I can imagine is that the wackos did an excellent job of recruiting new wackos to vote for him to cancel out the Sane American vote.

What will bring Bush down: Sane Republicans. All it would take is a few of them. But they fear the same things Democrats do -- the reprisals, the character assassination, etc. That's too bad, because the rise of a moderate Republican at this point, standing up to Bush, would find himself riding a wave of popular support. Who's going to take the risk? I honestly don't think they're getting "good intelligence" about what the American people genuinely desire at this point -- they're getting fed bullshit by interest groups and their targeted political actions.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:50 AM
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47. I think so too
It's up to the sane republicans to kick out the neocons and never let them in their party again. And to not let the fundies go overboard with their power. Nobody challenges them anymore with their hate and bigotry.
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pgh_dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 02:48 PM
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53. more than a few Nov 2 students think
that the sane ones already tried to bring bush down. All of us know a healthy number of *2000 reps who voted for Kerry, and stories of Gore 2000 to **04 voters are very rare. Yet somehow all over the US, Ohio particularly, heavily Rep districts got 90+% turnouts with huge margins for **. Guess ** voters were just realllly enthusiastic, just reallllly quiet about it before and after selection.
Check out Bob Fitrakis and Cliff Arnebeck's comments/writing on Hamilton/Butler/Warren counties.
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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:55 PM
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54. "how did this guy win in 2004..."
By outright thievery, that's how. It was a rigged election; he wasn't in any danger of losing, no matter how many people voted against him.

And until the voting machines are hammered into junk, there will be a Republican president in the White House.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:45 AM
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44. Recommend Independant
That way if Dems piss him off he won't be a Rep again.
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