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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:47 PM
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While we watched Bush, the House cut Medicaid...
WASHINGTON - The House narrowly passed a $2.6 trillion budget Thursday evening that would cut back the Medicaid health care program for the poor for the first time since 1997 in a step toward trimming federal deficits.

The 214-211 vote approved a blueprint that instructs lawmakers to freeze or cut spending in many domestic programs outside defense and homeland security and restrain farm, student loan, pension and some other government programs that grow automatically from year to year.

The Senate simultaneously debated the measure and moved toward a vote Thursday night.

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, said it's time to look closely at benefit programs that are "popular but rife with waste."

"These entitlement programs deserve reform," he said. "The Medicaid system is antiquated and the quality of care is not being brought to the people that need it."


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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050429/ap_on_go_co/congress_spending
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:48 PM
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1. If there were any justice, Tom DeLay would need Medicaid.
Speaking of being "rife with waste." :grr:
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:49 PM
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2. It isnt perfect so destroy it!!!!!!!!!
The conservative credo.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:49 PM
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3. Will this..
.. get by the Senate? I hope not.

Sue
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:51 PM
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4. Congress is rife with waste
can we cut that too?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:52 PM
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5. My disabled brother is in a group home paid by Medicaid...
This is horrible news...
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:58 PM
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This Hobbesian bunch of Social Darwinists need their heads handed to them
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 08:59 PM by EVDebs
The measure of a society is how it treats the weakest among them. This bunch is failing us badly.

I'm posting my tail off on DU and hope you do to. Tell your story; let's hope Dems in powerful positions can hear it too, Junkdrawer.

Democrats United Will Never Be Defeated !

Kick this thread to the 'greatest page' BTW
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:11 PM
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11. The weakest, indeed...
Medicaid is a federal/state program that provides health, community-based and institutional long-term services and supports, for children and families, the elderly, and people with disabilities. In 2000, more than 1.75 million Pennsylvania residents received services through Medicaid, including 391,401 people with disabilities

As the national economy has weakened and as Pennsylvania struggles to balance its budget and provide critical and life-saving services for its residents, The Arc of the United States and United Cerebral Palsy—national organizations that provide a voice for persons with mental retardation and cerebral palsy—have compiled information to help the public understand the essential role of Medicaid in providing critical services and supports to Pennsylvanians with mental retardation, cerebral palsy and related disabilities. As the state cuts its budget and prioritizes programs, care must be taken not to hurt our most vulnerable residents by cutting eligibility for Medicaid or eliminating critical Medicaid services.


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http://www.thearc.org/medicaid/pennsylvania.doc
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 08:13 AM
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40. My fundie/repuke sister has a son with CP
She has been relying on Medicaid for support with him for 16 years. I wonder if she will somehow blame this on Clinton? I feel so bad for my sweet nephew. And your brother as well.

:(
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:58 PM
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6. but THE DEMS STUCK TOGETHER.
We've gotta look for a silver lining, and this is it. It's long past time for soem party unity.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:19 PM
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19. What good is it when Repuks have no hearts!?!
They hate us.

I believe firmly now they've hated American's for decades.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:21 PM
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20. Maybe, but
as far as that goes, we're powerless. Yes, it's totally depressing, but they are the majority. If they vote, they win. Period. We can't help it.

What we can help is our own party unity. If we're going to lose, I'd much rather we present a united front.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:00 PM
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7. The UnChristian GOP House cut $ to help the poor.
You know, someone has to pay to keep the wealthy wealthy.

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:32 PM
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23. Remember "We will be judged by how we treat the weakest" during Schiavo?
in PA alone, 400,000 people with disabilities depend on Medicaid. My best friend is fighting his ass off with ARC to keep these "weakest" from bearing the brunt of the cuts.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:01 PM
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8. Notice how they love to use the term: "reform".....
Hoping people will think they are fixing something, when they are actually dismantling it.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:17 PM
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16. precisely. "Realizing savings in the budget"...is another scam phrase.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:02 PM
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9. Presto! Change-O! Don't look behind the mirror!
Karl Rove : an evil political version of David Blaine...
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thethinker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:07 PM
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10. Which house Democrats voted for this?
A group of house "democrats" calling themselves new democrats voted for the bankruptcy bill. They voted for it because they really liked the bill.

Does anyone know which representatives voted for this? I am keeping a record of how these people vote.

There are a thousand ways to cut expenses without taking it out of the pockets of the poorest members of society. They vote for something evil like this while giving the rich tax breaks all over the place. If they really wanted to cut expenses and balance a budget they would stop their give aways to the rich!

Something has to give with these so-called "democrats" in the house. I, for one, have had with them. I dislike them as much as I dislike DeLay.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:13 PM
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12. We're talking about the GOP House cutting $ to the poor
Not the bankruptcy bill.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:19 PM
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18. Force the wealthy and the Multi-Corps to pay taxes!!!!
Instead of allowing the Bush Junta to extend the Wealth Care System, Dems should be united in figuring out a way to keep this Criminal Admin. from destroying Amerika.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:15 PM
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13. Delay is a waste....let's get rid of him!
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:29 AM
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31. Here is a start
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:17 PM
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14. More ammunition against these selfish
creeps for 2006.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:17 PM
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15. I knew it! Take our eyes off the REAL ISSUES
I said it on a previous post moments ago: Chimp rarely speaks, and from the WH at that! It was all 1 BIG put on to keep our attention away from the real bouncing ball!

Liars, Crooks & Thieves! Wake-up, American's! Jeez. What the heck does it take! They're not paying attention?

Can't take much more of this. Too darn sad.

Yeah... when he mentioned those numbers of troops not in Iraqi now, he neglected to say they're probably either deceased or in a hospital somewhere w/lost limbs, etc.
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Treblig Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:46 PM
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25. "I knew it! Take our eyes off the REAL ISSUES"
What really galls me is that smirk of his when he says that he knows how we feel about SS since he is a baby-boomer too. It's like he knows what it's like to be one of us; working for a living.
Damm' -- this man just can't see past the end of his own nose.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:18 PM
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17. Bastards! Cheeze, now what will the poor children do?
They are always great at picking on those least able to fight back.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:22 PM
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21. Money for War
Money for War and KILLING..... increased!!!

Money for healing the SICK and POOR..... CUT!!!!

Jesus wept.
How can these greedy hypocrits sit in the front pews and publicly pray aloud to Jesus.


"Every gun that is fired, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." --- Dwight Eisenhauer
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:31 PM
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22. I get medicare
And a 500 buck check to live on.

I bet these rich pigs could not survive how I live.

I wish they would just..kill themselves. Because pigs like them do not deserve to breate the same air as I do.

Cut the rich off of thier money,staus, and deprive them, of healthcare. Kick fucking Zell out of the hospital.See how the piggies cope with what they make other people live through. The pigs never had to suffer or be deprived before. It's 'Bout time they felt it for themselves.

I curse them, for they are inhuman monsters with no sense of how hard reality is because they have been insulated from it..
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:35 PM
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24. Isnt this is what Jesus would do?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:13 PM
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26. .
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:50 AM
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27. .
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:43 PM
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36. .
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 07:34 AM
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38. One last kick
:kick:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:55 AM
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28. I swear if they got what they really wanted
they'd line all the poor people up at the edge of an open pit and invite their NRA buddies for target practice. These people are disgusting.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:19 AM
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30. and bill us for the ammunition
Couldn't even think of reducing the tax cuts by ten percent and leave Medicare alone. Gotta have priorities...
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:17 AM
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29. Ted Kennedy's Statement on the Cuts...

...

MEDICAID Just last month, the Senate made it clear that cuts to the Medicaid program were unacceptable. In a bipartisan vote, we agreed to not make any cuts until a bipartisan commission had time to examine the Medicaid program and recommend possible reforms based on sound policy. And just this week, in an overwhelming bipartisan vote, the House instructed the budget conferees not to cut Medicaid.

Yet the budget we will be voting on shortly not only cuts Medicaid -- despite consensus in both the House and Senate against cuts -- its cuts to the program are deeper than those we voted down in March. The Senate rejected $15 billion in cuts to the Finance Committee last month, yet this budget report that was drafted in the dark of night behind closed doors forces the Finance Committee to cut $10 billion.

And if these cuts were not bad enough, the bipartisan Medicaid commission has turned into a partisan commission that the Administration can stack with members they know will recommend the cuts their predetermined cuts. Instead of a real examination of the Medicaid program so that we can modernize the program with needed reforms, we will have a commission whose agenda will be to recommend cuts.

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http://kennedy.senate.gov/index_high.html

Here's hoping the Senate stops this madness.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 08:23 AM
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35. THE SENATE PASSED IT TOO...
The article the original link pointed to was updated...

....

The vote was 214-211 in the House and 52-47 in the Senate.

The budget resolution is nonbinding, but it sets critical guidelines for lawmakers as they make decisions on taxes and specific spending programs for the 2006 fiscal year that begins October 1. Equally important, tax and spending legislation passed under direction from the budget is immune from Senate filibusters.

....

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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:50 AM
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32. This is good. A lot of medicaid recipients I know voted for Bush

In fact, a ton of people I know who get various checks from the gov't, medicaid, medicare, SSI, SSDI voted for Bush. They need to fully experience what they are voting for.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:57 AM
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33. But a lot of them didn't.
Why should they be punished, too?
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 08:11 AM
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39. Diebold and Sequoia are why they are punished. Bu$h Inc. should be
punished. But since they can steal elections. And keep their fascist congress in place. Along with the smirking chimp. They will always be in power to steal from the poor to give to the rich. It is that simple. But it is certainly not what should happen.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 07:17 AM
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34. Wow. So let's let a bunch of children die
because they can't get medical treatment early on for conditions, that if they are not treated can progress into fatal conditions...

That'll show 'em.

*sarcasm*
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:44 PM
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37. This needs to go out in letters to the editor how
bush talks about 'helping the poor' by cutting their social security at the SAME TIME as the republicans are passing a bill taking medicaid benefits from the poor. Someone should be able to come up with a good sound bite about this.
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