A Shakesperean tragedy is occurring before our eyes

[burythehatchet]

The idiot is melting

[eleny]

1. Rendition started a meltdown, for sure

[rwenos]

2. King Lear? or Caesar?

I'm thinking Lear.

[charlyvi]

31. I'm thinking Macbeth

Cause he's going to do tremendous harm before he goes!

[Ellipsis]

37. "Tis the wood of Birnam, moving."

[ailsagirl]

3. I thought that was The Wizard of Oz??

Or did you mean, "Oh that this too, too solid flesh would melt...?"

[H2O Man]

4. My sons are refusing

to let me watch the tv. I will be watching the highlights later. But of all the posts, your quote about "a Shakesperean tragedy ... occurring before our eyes" is the most interesting. Please have pity on an old man, and explain how it is going! Thanks!

[burythehatchet]

7. in his eyes, there is a reflection

of awareness. a fearful awareness that he is done. the noose is tightening and he seems to recognize the end is near

[H2O Man]

9. The look of a cowardly dog ....

even without it on my tv, I can see it. Your description is wonderful. The look of a vicious, lying bully "prince," who is beginning to realize that some of the people he thought took orders from his boys, are leading him into the deep forest .....

[burythehatchet]

10. as you are very well aware, there are many knives waiting

in the shadows. One of which holds particular interest for you.;)

[H2O Man]

13. Oh, yes.

I am looking forward to seeing the film.

[KlatooBNikto]

11. Sire, our Moment of Revulsion is nigh.

[H2O Man]

16. Today I was struck

by the corporate media noting that "moderate" republicans are turning on him. I was smiling, thinking of Nixon. Although he is a different cut of man -- far worse, in my opinion -- I think this thread in particular confirmed what I was thinking is true.

[ailsagirl]

20. Who's far worse? * or Nixon?? Just curious

John Dean is of the opinion that Nixon was pretty bad. For me, in retrospect, Nixon was a boy scout!!!

:evilgrin:

[H2O Man]

23. John Dean knows how bad Nixon was.

He saw the very worst side of that man. Nixon turned on Dean, of course, in a vicious attempt to blame the young attorney for the president's crimes! However, Dean has made clear that he considers Bush2 to be "Worse Than Watergate," as the title of his book reads ... and in the book he documents ways in which this administration is by far worse. Dick Cheney is worse than Nixon, too.

Nixon, for all his faults (and he should have served timew for a mere fraction of them), also did a number of good things as president. Bush has done none.

[ailsagirl]

28. Thanks for the response... good points.

You're right... * has done NOTHING good for us. In fact, if it's good for us you know he's against it.

[immoderate]

30. Yeah, these guys make Nixon look good.

And I speak as someone who hung onto every syllable of the Watergate hearings. And I have Nixonisms in my banter to this day, to not have them...well, "it would be wrong."

But Nixon was too much of a control freak to let this happen. Bush has ceded control to forces he doesn't understand. So no one is really responsible. When the disasters happen Bush will shrug and walk away like with his oil ventures.

--IMM

[H2O Man]

32. Could you have pictured

in the Watergate era, that there would be a president who made Nixon look good?

Your point about Nixon's need to control is key. In many ways, Cheney is far more like Nixon .... than even Nixon was.

[immoderate]

33. LOL. Nixon was the ultimate! Reagan was unimaginable.

Agree that Cheney is closest to being the "daddy," but the cowboy image overwhelms everything. I get the feeling that each entity is just turned loose on us with nobody evaluating what the aggregate picture is like.

--IMM

[Blue Belle]

27. I don't know what they would put up for "highlights"...

except for the fact that he managed to get through the Press conference without literally falling down (figuatively it was like an endless rabbit hole that only Alice would envy).

[H2O Man]

34. The clips I've seen

are troubling. In my opinion, and I do not pretend that it is anything more than that, is that he is becoming frustrated and that he has trouble following the script. For example, I believe he was scripted to make a statement that creates the illusion that he disagrees with Dobson. Like hell he does -- Dobson's comparing Bush to a soldier of the Lord is EXACTLY the image Bush wants projected. The president normally has no problem lying to the American people -- like all sociopaths, he takes almost a giddy delight in "getting away" with lies. But this one bothers him. And I think he is a vindictive and cruel man, who will lash out in some inappropriate manner.

[Blue Belle]

36. You're last statement drove it home...

"a vindictive and cruel man, who will lash out in some inappropriate manner."

This is the motto for this Administration. It resounds in their forgein and domestic policies... it resounds in their campaign tactics... and it more blatently resounds in the people he appoints to his cabinet and to diplomatic posts (it describes John Bolton to a T). Unfortunately the press and the Pundits wil look at his abismal preformance and call it brilliant... and the lies and destruction of all that is great about this country will continue.

[Junkdrawer]

5. "Stop me. Stop me before I invade again"...

Does he have to spell it out? Can't we hear his cry for help?

[signmike]

6. A Comedy Of Errors ?

[meganmonkey]

14. It's not funny, though, because it's real

:(

[glitch]

8. Richard III. With Ian McKellen.

Seriously.

[rwenos]

17. I Considered Ian McKellen as a Modern Richard III, but

he had WAY too much energy and force (not to mention language skills!)

But your point is well taken. The Fascist King!

[glitch]

24. McKellen did the evil so well. but you're right, much more intelligent

plus I think I read somewhere that bush is related to richard III. Or maybe I just dreamed it, after seeing the resemblance.

[sweetheart]

22. without the profundity

As richard III's honesty:


KING RICHARD:
Give me another horse,—bind up my wounds,—
Have mercy, Jesu!—Soft! I did but dream.—
O coward conscience, how dost thou afflict me!—
The lights burn blue.—It is now dead midnight.
Cold fearful drops stand on my trembling flesh.
What, do I fear myself? there's none else by:
Richard loves Richard; that is, I am I.
Is there a murderer here? No;—yes, I am:
Then fly. What, from myself? Great reason why,—
Lest I revenge. What,—myself upon myself!
Alack, I love myself. Wherefore? for any good
That I myself have done unto myself?
O, no! alas, I rather hate myself
For hateful deeds committed by myself!
I am a villain: yet I lie, I am not.
Fool, of thyself speak well:—fool, do not flatter.
My conscience hath a thousand several tongues,
And every tongue brings in a several tale,
And every tale condemns me for a villain.
Perjury, perjury, in the high'st degree;
Murder, stern murder, in the dir'st degree;
All several sins, all us'd in each degree,
Throng to the bar, crying all Guilty! guilty!
I shall despair. There is no creature loves me;
And if I die no soul will pity me:
And wherefore should they,—since that I myself
Find in myself no pity to myself?
Methought the souls of all that I had murder'd
Came to my tent; and every one did threat
To-morrow's vengeance on the head of Richard.


Richard III - act 5 scene 3

[glitch]

25. too true. but the malignant narcissm and the evil are so pegged. nt

[PartyPooper]

12. "Much Ado About Nothing"

:-( :-)

[KlatooBNikto]

15. It is more like Cool Hand Luke: What we got here is failure to

communicate.

[H2O Man]

19. The "kid" who stole

Pee-Wee Herman's bike on his "Big Adventure" was far more presidential than George W. ever has.

[karlrschneider]

18. A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,

signifying nothing...

:eyes:

[ailsagirl]

21. Oh, excellent... and sooooooo appropriate!! n/t

[sweetheart]

26. yet the full quote is for us all

To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

-macbeth

My take, is that shakespeare is describing the ego, and
its basis in tomorrow and yesterday... and everything
the ego does, is a waste. It is not pessimism, but
realism, that life and love in the present, and all the
fools who follow their egos to a dusty death are mislead.

THe literary dudes as well:
http://shakespeare.about.com/library/weekly/aa113000b.htm
http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/poems/229.html

[Javaman]

29. "help me! I'm melting! oh cruel cruel world!"

[The Stranger]

35. Great thread. Here's my contribution from the Great Bard:

"Never go home,
Here starve we out the night . . ."

[burythehatchet]

38. I feel like there's a bunch of fancy pants elitists at my trailer park

:)

Seriously, I wish I knew Will as many of you do.