Just got off the phone with my Dad

[HEyHEY]

He just got back from Cuba. While landing at YVR he saw an Air Transat plane missing a tail rudder. The plane was coming up from Cuba to Vancouver when the rudder flew off... there was 230 aboard. They were over Louisianna whent the rudder blew off.
They requested an emergency landing in the US, but where told because the plane came from Cuba it wasn't allowed. So, they had to fly back to Cuba without a rudder (Which can be done).
230 people aboard. Man.

I'm fucking disgusted.
And with what Canada did for the US on 911.

[RandomKoolzip]

1. But Communism is such a HUGE threat!

NOT ONE DOMINO SHALL FALL!

[Extend a Hand]

2. vile!

vile vile

I so glad they made it back safely though

[Jacobin]

3. When you say 'rudder' do you mean the vertical stabilizer?

I'm having a really hard time imagining a jet flying without a vertical stabilizer.

[HEyHEY]

6. The "Tail fin"

[Jacobin]

15. Well, there are three tail fins

The vertical stabilizer and two horizontal stabilizers. don't mean to pick this apart, and I have no doubt that Murkins turned them away from landing due to their 45 year snit with Fidel, but the plane won't fly with one of the 'tail fins' off.

Just curious from an aeronautical perspective.

[HEyHEY]

18. The one that sticks straight up

[wakeme2008]

25. Rudder,,, not veritcal Stab

just the rudder came off...




edited to add
more pictures here

http://www.airlinecrew.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/155183/Main/154652

[Catherine Vincent]

4. Wow!

Had that plane crashed, would we have learned the real reason why?

[HEyHEY]

8. Good question

[Hello_Kitty]

5. No way!!

That's ridiculous. What were they afraid of, "Terra"? Or some Cubans trying to emigrate? Like a pilot pretended a plane was in distress to carry out some mischeif? Good grief.

[Pachamama]

7. Is that legal under the international aviation treaties? I always assumed

that under such emergency situations that exceptions were made for the safety of passengers....

Are you certain of this? I hope to find out more, but I always was under the impression that the international treaties would make exceptions in this kind of case...OH! That's right! My mistake...we have an administration that doesn't pay attention to international treaties and agreements! :spank:

[HEyHEY]

10. Supposedly news stories were done- I missed them

Try a google search..

[Stinky The Clown]

32. Treaties? We don't need no fucking treaties

We broke 'em all since this pack of vipers crawled into our nationa's Capitol.

[Divernan]

9. Hope to see Canadian news report this.

NT

[HEyHEY]

12. They did I heard... but somehow it never became a big deal

:shrug:

[AlCzervik]

11. Wow, WTF how petty is our government?

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. That is disgusting! Man, have I told you yet today

how much I hate these people? That is absolutely astonishing. 230 lives matter not to this regime. HEyHEY, please accept my apology for the actions of the bastards who run this country. I'm so sorry they are so damn short-sighted and EVIL. :grr:

[Mondon]

14. May be Cuban propaganda

Airbus Returns To Cuba After Partial Rudder Loss

By Mary Grady
Newswriter, Editor

An Air Transat Airbus 310 was about 30 minutes into a flight from Cuba to Quebec City on Saturday when the rudder became partially detached. The airplane returned safely to Cuba. Three other Airbus airplanes were grounded for inspection but returned to service after no problems were found. Reports that the Airbus was denied permission to land in Florida by U.S. air traffic controllers seem to have been false. U.S. controllers said they were never told about an emergency, and Air Transat said the crew chose to return to Cuba because they had maintenance crew there and were never refused permission to land in Florida. The aircraft involved was put into service in 1991. It had an inspection on March 1, and its next major inspection is scheduled for 2006, Air Transat said.

http://www.avweb.com/newswire/11_10b/briefs/189316-1.html

[HEyHEY]

17. Cuban propaganda? From my Father?

He heard it from an Air Transat Employee.

[Mondon]

33. See link in #19 eom

[Media_Lies_Daily]

20. Right. Keep thinking that.

[donheld]

16. People wonder why sometimes i feel shame being American.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Cuban_Liberal]

19. They never requested permission to land in the US.

The captain chose to return to Cuba because he had access to maintenance facilities there.

http://www.transat.com/en/media_centre/2.0.media.centre.asp?id=872

[Media_Lies_Daily]

21. And you know this because.....??

[Cuban_Liberal]

22. Because the link is to the airline's official website.

Click it, and see for yourself.

[HEyHEY]

27. Is it not a law the plane must land if it's in danger?

Just curious...is it?

[Cuban_Liberal]

29. I have no idea.

:shrug:

[Inland]

23. Should have let it land, and then confiscate all cigars. nt

[dsc]

24. I tend to find this a little tough to believe in that

the plane could have landed in Mexico, which should have been closer. I think if they asked to land and were denied the reasonable thing to do would be to ask Mexico to land, and they would have said yes. I think the employee was relaying a rumor which turned out not to be true.

[slutticus]

26. I don't believe it.

Sorry

Schoolyard gossip.

[CBGLuthier]

28. Found a few articles about it

This one says it happened 25 minutes into the flight.

http://www.airdisaster.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-71606.html

On Saturday, an Air Transat Airbus 310 flying from Varadero, Cuba to Quebec City developed what the airline is calling a "mechanical problem" about 25 minutes into the flight.




I am no geography whiz but I would think turning back to Cuba would have been the best option.

[Cleita]

30. The good news is that Air Canada is buying

new airplanes from Airbus. I'm glad DH got rid of the Boeing stock years ago. Sorry to hear how shabbily our crappy our government is treating our good friends in Canada, like Cuba is such a big threat now that the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore.

For my part, I am forever grateful for what you guys did for us after 9/11.

[JordanTO]

31. That just doesn't sound right.

I just can't see the Yanks doing something like that.