OMG You guys!

[ChickMagic]

I picked up a church bulletin when we left that pit of vipers last night and lookee what fell out.

[phusion]

1. Is that for real?

:wtf:

[wicket]

10. yes- that graphic has been on the Family Research Council's website

It's so nauseating :puke:

[ChickMagic]

11. For sure

I didn't look at the bulletin until just now, and it fell out.

[anarchy1999]

17. Sweetheart, you did know what you were going to, didn't you?

This had been up all week before. Yep, it is real. Damn, I don't know how you all missed it.

You guys really took on more alone than you should have, you should have sought aid.

And I go back to asking everyone to read the following:

http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm

The Bilderbergs.
The Trilateral Commission.
The Council of Foreign Relations.
The Central Intelligence Agency.

Most everyone has heard of these groups and some of the conspiracy theories surrounding them regarding the development of the 'New World Order.'

Now imagine for a moment there is something to this (and there appears to be no lack of documented material justifying these theories). That would mean that at almost every elevated level of business and government, world wide, men and women have infiltrated, become the controlling administrators and are working to effectively control every aspect of the life of the "world citizen."

One aspect of this that has not been properly searched out is the "religious" connection. Surely, given that much of the world is religious, and in the currently reigning SuperPower nation of the U.S., predominantly "Christian," then it would only make sense that these organizations have infiltrated the Church itself and are also actively leading it to into the New World Order as well.

Do the worlds leading Christian evangelicals have ties to these organizations?

Yes they do, and it is thoroughly documented.

Go to above link and you'll feel better. Long read, but worth it.

[ChickMagic]

24. Nope, I missed it

We just took notes. We didn't confront anyone. They were so damned glad to see us that it was sad.

[anarchy1999]

32. Whoops. You all should have been better prepared. You did good,

but how in heaven's name did you guys miss this one. Derby never misses a lick! What's up?

Thought you all knew and I'm sorry. Wow.

[ChickMagic]

35. We'd obviously heard it was going on

otherwise neither of us would have shown up dead. I just hadn't realized they had stuffed the propaganda into their regular bulletins. It was the worst sort too - whatever happened to "no religious tests"?

[anarchy1999]

41. You missed it babe, what can I say? I'm sorry.

"no religious tests"? I don't know, texts maybe? This was a weekend to remember and you guys went to the front line for all of us. Be sure to let everyone know that you and Derby did it for all of us at DU.

THANK YOU BOTH!

Dinner when?

[ChickMagic]

43. Aw, thanks!

A lot of people here have done far more, but I really appreciate the thought.

I'm not sure - check with Derby.

[FreedomAngel82]

22. I guess they better

tell that to Jimmy Carter. :eyes: What a bunch of sorry asses.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

2. Shouldn't the Democrats simply reply.....

"So all the judicial nominees who have been nominated/confirmed under this administration are actually pagans?????"

[Jade Fox]

20. good point n/t

[BlueEyedSon]

3. Those captions SHOULD say:

"Enlightenment"

and "Blind Faith"

A pretty easy choice, actually.....

[Straight Shooter]

4. Someone please PhotoShop a gun instead of a gavel in that pic.

:banghead:

[MADem]

15. Here's a link to it in LIVING COLOR, courtesy of the

Fascist Research Council!

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=AD05D01&f=PG03I03

[Ron Mexico]

5. This would be a good time for me to learn what the rules are on

curse words in this forum, because my first reaction upon seeing this was "Jesus f*cking Christ."

[demnan]

13. Jesus Fucking Christ if perfectly ok

and welcome to DU! :hi:

[flvegan]

25. Hi, Ron Mexico.

Welcome to DU!

Curse away.

[rkc3]

27. Hey Ron, welcome to DU - say hi to Mike Vick for me.

[anarchy1999]

38. Abbreviate, abbreviate and use the dictionary. You'll do fine. And yes,

same words crossed my mind.

We say WTF? around here most usually. Welcome to DU.

Asterisks and number signs are welcome and understood.

[newyawker99]

45. Hi Ron Mexico!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Ron Mexico]

55. Thanks, all

I appreciate the welcome and the explanations. It's not walways easy to get your feet wet a a message board, but it looks like this place is a lot friendlier than most. :)

[MADem]

6. That's been all over the net and elsewhere, in living color

For the life of me I cannot fathom the model they used for that foolish ad. He looks like he plucks his eyebrows, and has had a chunk of his hair torn out at the front.

Guess no self-respecting Sears or JCPenny boyswear model would take the gig!

[antigone382]

53. Gotta love the hairstyle...straight out of 1987!

He's sort of a poor man's Karate Kid, isn't he?

[gollygee]

7. I've seen that ad

there must have been something like that going on around here too.

[Kerrytravelers]

8. Ok, so don't choose, a--hole.

Be like any good rethuglian should and join *'s military, go invade countries, guard their oil and not the people. Be a good little brownshirt and drink up all your kool-aid.

My God/dess, are these people completly out of their minds?

[efhmc]

9. If THIS is not a violation of tax exemption status, then what is?

Not to mention that it is just wrong!!!

[Pacifist Patriot]

36. I wrote to Sen. Bill Nelson on Friday...

asking for an investigation as to whether or not Justice Sunday crossed the line in that regard.

[Az]

12. If your faith cannot abide a secular legal system then you do

Have to choose.

[CottonBear]

14. Damn. That is so very wrong and twisted.

Those folks are sick, sick, sick in the head.

I suppose Jimmy Carter didn't get the "you can't be a public servant and have faith in christ message?"

[ChickMagic]

18. Neither did most of the rest

I'd say a vast majority of our presidents and congress critters are and have been Christians.

[iamjoy]

16. I Don't Understand This Flyer

OK - this has been bugging me...

The Conservative argument is: Judges shouldn't have to choose between faith (in Christ) and the law. When Democrats filibuster nominees, they are filibustering nominees because of their religion.

So, do Conservatives think judges should make decisions based on faith (or biblical law)and not U.S. law?

If so, how is this not judicial activism?

Lots more arguments on this, but I'll try to keep it simple for now.

Anyway, maybe it is time for you to look for a new church or let your minister know how offended you were by this.

[ChickMagic]

21. Whoa

It's not my church. I just infiltrated it for Just Us Sunday. Basically, yes, they want Biblical law to supercede secular law.

[Avalux]

29. What these conservative fundies are doing is unconstitutional

Judges should not be appointed based on faith. They should be appointed for their ability to uphold the constitution and the laws of this country. DUH!!!! This flyer and the way these freaks are inserting biblical law into the legislative and judiciary process is FUCKED UP. They are traitors; they have no respect for the foundations of this country. That flyer makes me sick in my stomach and very, very sad for where we're headed.

[Cats Against Frist]

52. Actually, it's like this

they see the current judiciary as hostile to interpreting the Constitution to mean that "mob religious rule," should be the beginning and end of all law in the U.S.

They do, in fact, hate the First Amendment, the Enlightenment-bound history of our nation and the principle of "self-evidence" that was layed out in the Declaration of Independence.

They want the court to remove all barriers to religious indoctrination and oppression. If the judge does not do this, he is "hostile to religion."

The theory is, I guess, that since the GOP has a narrow majority, that they should be able to appoint any crackpot judge they want, who will usher in a theocratic government, Constiution be damned.

Their real goal is to get the ninth circuit, which I believe is the last strongly liberal (by their standards) federal court, which covers Hawaii, California, Alaska, Washington, Oregon, Nevada, Alaska, Montana and Idaho.

By their reasoning, I would guess that Democrats outnumber Republicans in this circuit, so I don't see why they wouldn't think that Democrats should control this court. But that would require them to have, well, principles.

[demnan]

19. So

When does this church start paying taxes? It obviously has a political agenda that supports the GOP so I suppose it is a political action organization, not a religious organization.

Pants suit ok? :hi:

[ChickMagic]

23. Yep!

It worked out great - you should have seen me. I was a vision of Baptobabitude. :hi:

[anarchy1999]

26. "Baptobabitude", formanally known as "GinBarn", may she rest in peace.

n/t

Shame on you, Gin!

Forever more to be known as the partner of Derby, GinBarn, now known as "Baptobabitude".

I'm not sure I can stand it.

[ChickMagic]

31. LOL

ACTING!!!!

[CottonBear]

37. What did you end up wearing?

Just curious if you blended in. Your acting skills must be very strong to have survived this 1 1/2 hour Baptofest with out being "outed" as a pagan Duer!

[ChickMagic]

39. I wore black trousers

with a gray tshirt and black and gray jacket. I put my hair up in a very modest twist - no jewelry except for my wedding ring. Flat black shoes.

It turned out we were a little overdressed for this particular crew. Better that than underdressed though.

[G_j]

28. didn't know Bush had nominated Jesus for the court

I don't think he would want the job anyway..

[ChickMagic]

30. Nah

He was big on leaving to Ceasar what was Ceasar's.

[Pacifist Patriot]

33. What a monumental insult to the Christians who are already in ...

public service.

[Sydnie]

34. They make me so sick with this shit

It's simple. Judges should put down their religious documents (what ever they may be) to pick up their gavel. Justice is hard work, that takes two hands to dispense. Once they remove their robes, and people are not compelled to stand when they enter a room, they can use their two hands for anything else that they choose that expresses their religious beliefs. If they can't keep their religious "laws" out of their judgments, they have no business being on the bench.

And, if a Preacher can't keep his politics in his pocket when he stands in front of the congregation at the pulpit, he has no business being there either.

So, let them shoot themselves in the foot with this activity. It amuses the masses, I guess.

[mondo joe]

40. It should be a judge choosing between the constitution and bible

And it should be from our side.

[ComerPerro]

46. I've got the perfect Idea

Have a judge holding the Quran and a gavel.

Caption: How would you rather be judged: by strict religious doctrine or The Constitution?

[samilib]

42. That is garbage.

Just because the Democrats want to keep out some radical activist judges that want to push their faith on us does not mean that they are anti-Christian. Most of them are Christians themselves.

The Religious Right does not get to say what is Christian and what is not. They need to learn that.

[Last Lemming]

44. Begs to be tweaked

He should not have to choose:
Faith vs. Constitution
He should have both

[ComerPerro]

47. Instead of a Bible, make it the Quran. "faith in Allah"

Lets see how many fundies choose the Gavel in that scenario.

Its the same thing.

[Cats Against Frist]

48. Hey!

Did you do a write-up, somewhere, about your experience in the "pit of vipers?" I missed it -- could you link? If not -- I'm interested in hearing how it all went.

Do their eyes really have those hypnotic swirlies in them, like I imagine?

[bush_is_wacko]

49. No surprise to me. The problem is that HE doesn't have to chose!

All he has to do is realize that when he goes to work (as a politician or judge) He is NOT going to church. Why is this SO freaking hard for them to understand. You know the judges they are complaining about REALLY are radical and they REALLY do want to IMPOSE their freaking religion on others.

I ALREADY know Christ! I don't want to hear someone ELSE'S version of Him. Especially since you seem to COMPLETELY unable to hear or see MY version of Him! Why the hell can't these fanatics REALIZE that "knowing God" doesn't mean becoming a nut case to MANY Christians!

[Cats Against Frist]

50. This is what we would call a "false dilemma--"

and it's nice to get an actual GRAPHIC of a false dilemma -- one of the favored logical fallacies that the looney crue like to peddle to their flock.

Now, let's see -- could there be a THIRD choice? No, really, could there be critical thinking involved in this decision? Could there be a compromise? Could this little Constitution hater move to an island? Could a person serve both the lord and the government if they didn't adhere to the right-wing version of Christianity? Could this person move to Iran and start up his theocracy there? Could he get a job at the Megachurch Starbucks?

[OneBlueSky]

51. the easy and obvious solution to this young man's dilemma . . .

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's" . . . wonder who said that . . .

[Wizard777]

54. Do they read their bibles before they promote?

Let us not forget Abraham. God will make the man choose. If God will make Abraham choose between Him and his son. To prove to God who he loves more by sacraficing his son to God. Then what is wrong with America asking him to prove who he loves more God or America by sacraficing a public position? If your love of God will not allow you to perform the duties of a position of public trust. Then do not seek it. Seek God instead.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

56. they put his hands on backwards

look how long his pinkie fingers are. he also seems to be lacking thumbs.