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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:38 AM
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Psychological Warfare
http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/new_pubs/jp3_53.pdf

Doctrine for joint psychological operations
125 page manual in PDF format
(An Interesting Read)

Overview
The purpose of
psychological operations
(PSYOP) is to induce or
reinforce foreign attitudes
and behavior favorable to
the originator’s objectives.
Psychological operations (PSYOP) are planned operations to
convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences
to influence the emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and
ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations,
groups, and individuals. PSYOP are a vital part of the broad
range of US diplomatic, informational, military, and economic
activities. PSYOP characteristically are delivered as information
for effect, used during peacetime and conflict, to inform and
influence. When properly employed, PSYOP can save lives of
friendly and/or adversary forces by reducing adversaries’ will to
fight. By lowering adversary morale and reducing their efficiency,
PSYOP can also discourage aggressive actions and create
dissidence and disaffection within their ranks, ultimately inducing
surrender.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:43 AM
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1. 'by reducing adversaries will to fight' no shit.
It's working.

That movie of your screen name was awesome, too.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:58 AM
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3. The Straight Story
Was indeed an awesome movie. I can't even fully explain why. But I got caught up in it and found myself along for the ride. It was one of those David Lynch movies that pulls you in and idles along and when it is all done you want more.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:49 AM
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2. Colorless green ideas sleep furiously
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:51 PM
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8. Chomsky????
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:03 AM
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9. Yes
;)

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:28 AM
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14. trippy
if i stare at it more than two seconds, i get flashbacks. too much antacid in the sixties.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:48 AM
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19. Free thought/thinking is NOT an American value, anymore. n/t
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:06 AM
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4. Remote Behavioral Influence Technology Evidence by John McMurtrey
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:07 AM
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5. That's entirey different
psyops is typically a coordinated campaign of misinformation, half-truths and omission of facts.
Simply put: "it's those darn media" (either liberal or otherwise, though not on their own accord; they're used as a tool).

Fancy brain-wave affecting technology and the likes may or may not exsist, and it may or may not be used, but that's not what psyops is about. It certainly is not the mainstay of psyops.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:10 PM
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6. When Rumsfeld made his speech to the people of Iraq after the shock
and awe it was broadcast on a Commando Solo 2 mission-which is PSYOPS and this technology combined for aerial mind control.

Here's a Commando Solo aerial mind control background link.
http://www.raven1.net/commsolo.htm

It has been used to "influence" foreign elections, what about domestic use by private contractors?:tinfoilhat:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:32 PM
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7. Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and the Manchurian Candidate by
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:58 AM
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20. Interesting article and it also provide a link to the Frank Olson
Website detailing the story of the "suicided" CIA agent.

http://www.frankolsonproject.org/Contents.html
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:06 AM
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10. so supposedly just misinforming the public isn't enough to affect
public opinion?

'Mind control' is happening all the time, not just over the battle field or over the heads of populations that need to be convinced to believe one thing or another in the interest of conquest. Propaganda 'news' broadcasts in areas of conflict often make use of air born transmitters or relay stations. That's not new nor unusual, nor is it evidence of direct mind control.
Propaganda has been used all throughout history; by the Nazis, by Caesar, by every ambitious conquerer and then some. Surely Caesar didn't have subliminal direct mind control technology, yet his propaganda did work.

The first article you linked to does imo not make a strong case that anything other then good old "perception management" is taking place. There's only the claim that "radio-frequency broadcasts carry subliminal patterns".
And then there's that bit about the population of Haiti supposedly being very much opposed to Aristide, and that some form of direct mind control was needed to get them to accept Aristide as president. That's highly suspicious to me. The Haitian population not liking Arristide is perfectly in line with what the current US administration would want everyone to believe. In the context of Globalization, Aristide did everything he could to preserve the interests of the Haitian economy and the population - in defiance of what the US wants. Since Haiti is so weak, Aristide had to compromise. Lucky he had to make a compromise with Clinton, who although being a neo-liberal globalist, is/was a relatively moderate one. Small wonder Aristide's policies were unacceptable to the Bush administration - hence the US military coup to remove Aristide.

What's next? Does the vast majority of Venezuelans support Chavez only because of US subliminal mind control of the Venezuelan population?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:24 AM
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13. Imagine your tv receiving an additional signal at a frequency known
to have an effect on people, then the waveform is modulated as you watch the screen and filter your scrambled perceptions. MSM may contain those frequencies in their broadcasts in addition to the powerful neuro-linguistic symbolic content.

It's a variation on what Rumsfeld's Commando Solo 2 speech to the Iraqi people was about, only using the infrastructure of MSM- the shadow government relies on it too much.

Turn off your tv for a week.:tinfoilhat:
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 02:25 PM
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21. I know what you mean, my question is
whether or not just misinforming the public isn't enough to affect public opinion? You know: spin, deceptive framing, mixing truth with lies, omission. You don't even need "powerful neuro-linguistic symbolic content".
You seem to be saying it isn't enough. Does that mean you think Chomsky et all's "propaganda model" is wrong?

Even if the techniques you describe are being used, i'd say those are not the main factor in the effectiveness of propaganda. Like i said before: Caesar used propaganda very effectively, and they didn't even have TV back then, let alone "modulated waveforms that filter people's scrambled perceptions as they watch the screen". This proves propaganda does work very well without fancy tinfoilhat-like technologies.

Btw, I don't have my TV switched on very often.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:20 AM
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11. psych ops: part one
When I was a young father, I noticed that every time I drove by a McDonald's, my young son would get excited. Yet he didn't like the food at all on those occasions that I brought him there. The power of commercials is a fine example of how people's thinking can be altered.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:57 AM
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12. some would have it that McDonald's is deploying "silent sound" emitters
or some such.
But i think you're right: the power of commercials, or more broadly the power of propaganda is more then enough to shape the public's values, morals and world view.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:29 AM
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15. the whole bizarre monstrosity of bushco is one big PSYOP...n/t
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:50 AM
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16. Yep. "Freedom" to be controlled via info manipulation,...
,...most of which is designed to evoke basic human emotion.

Are we free if we are forced to be subjected to a polished form of emotional blackmail? :shrug:

Not IMO.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 08:55 AM
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17. Freedom is "on the march"
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:46 AM
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18. I wonder who & when these ops were authorized against U.S. citizens.
Moreover, how are such operations rationalized after the shitstorm caused by Hitler and his propaganda (psyop) machine? Who ensures such power isn't abused by those authorized to use it?

:shrug:
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