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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 07:53 PM
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There are three devices U.S. Imperialism has used since times
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 07:59 PM by KlatooBNikto
immemorial that our media bury very effectively.

1.Seizing the upper hand in setting the basic parameters of any discussion. This may involve something as simple as U.S. involvement in subevrting Chavez or it may involve more serious matters like assassinations of foreign leaders.

2. Using Demonstration Elections to establish the bona fides of American intentions in a foreign country.The "elections" in Iraq are a case in point.An election in which no one knew where the polling booths were, who the candidates were and what the issues were.

3. Using so called Independent Commisissions to seize the upper hand and squelch any questions surrounding an event or an embarrasing issue.The 9/11 Commission,the Abu Ghraib Torture Commission are cases in point.These commissions are populated by tried and true yes men who can be relied on to put their rubber stamps on the prevailing wisdom.

With these three devices, they make it certain that anything resembling truth has very little chance of escaping their hermetically sealed door.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 07:57 PM
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1. MNA, May 2 2005. The Day WE BEGIN TO END THE IMPERIALISM....
....and transform our Nation into a cooperative member of the globabl community.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on why as we prepare to do whatever it takes, peacefully)
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 07:58 PM
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2. How DARE you diss the single bullet theory!
;-)
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:00 PM
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4. Along with that you can include that all of those things were perpetrated
by lone, deranged gun men. I plead guilty.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:00 PM
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3. These are all sort of in keeping...
... with the adage that anyone wanting control of the government must offer the public at least the appearance of democratic processes.

There's much more that we never see--and those are most undemocratic. Ever since 1948, when Congress gave the CIA the right to operate as a covert, paramilitary unit with virtually no oversight, the administration has had its tool to proceed as it wishes in those ways which would horrify the public--if they knew. Those are the things that never see the light of day, let alone get buried immediately. *sigh*
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:02 PM
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5. I offer you none other than Katherine Graham, who said " There are
certain things it is better for the American people not to know".Of course, she is not one of the American people.She is the ruling class which is entitled to know everything.She is also the keeper of secrets.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:05 PM
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6. Yeah, I remember that quote...
... and it was one of the things that convinced me I could never, ever, entirely trust the Washington Post to tell the truth.

Also convinced me of the reality of Operation Mockingbird. :)
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:06 PM
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7. 1st vote in history where the candidates were anonymous but voters marked
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 08:07 PM by billbuckhead
That wonderful Iraqi election! No one knew who the candidates were but all the voters were marked with a purple inkstain. FreeDUMB on the march.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:12 PM
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9. Yup, and no...
... independent observers allowed during that odd, twelve-day period when the vote count went on.

I suspect that much the same is occurring elsewhere--in Kyrgyzstan, most recently--for example....
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:09 PM
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8. That's all true but you have to capture the body before you steal the mind
Our nation is a captive audience. Imperial projects can't be undertaken without a war machine to invade for the purposes of empire. That's why the word occupier is such as strong one.

A good book on Colonialism/Imperialism that might be up your ally is called "Colonizing Egypt" by Timothy Mitchell. Add what you said and what I said and you get his basic argument-as I remember it anyway.
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