The Pope's Opus Dei Connections: Why are they dangerous?

[Dave Sund]

Let's drop the damn discussion about Hitler Youth. We need to articulate exactly why this pope is dangerous to catholicism and non-catholics alike.

People more familiar than me with what Opus Dei is all about, why are they particularly dangerous? What do they believe? What does Benedict XVI mean for their influence?

[punpirate]

1. A very brief history....

is in Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei

The principal problem with this society is that it has its roots in Franco's fascist Spain. They are, in a loose sense, the Catholic equivalent of the Protestant born-again fundamentalists.

Ratzinger seems to espouse many of their views.

Cheers.

[Tux]

2. Great

Another fundie who speaks for God.

[Dave Sund]

3. Kick, this is more important than his youth...

:kick:

[Minstrel Boy]

4. Just posted this on my blog about Ratzinger and Opus Dei

The links are live in the post on my blog.

White Smoke, Dark Skies



So Opus Dei has its Pope, and St Malachy of Armagh is either right again, or just lucky. Like I've said before about the curse of living in interesting times, at least they're interesting.

I wrote a little here about Opus Dei and why it deserves our distrust. If you don't yet, I suggest familiarizing yourself with the content of the Opus Dei Awareness Network. Opus Dei has been an organ of fascism (by the 1960s Franco's cabinet was stacked with Opusdeistas, and they rose again under the Aznar government), and has amassed for itself a Templar-worthy fortune, and an international network of influence that rivals, or perhaps complements, that of Freemasonry. ("Many of its 85,000 worldwide members work in legal, medical, financial and media professions," according to today's Los Angeles Times. In a post last week I considered the Masonic cultivation of similar segments of society.) Its ritualized mortification of the flesh and psychological self-battery, as well as the inference of unspoken agendas, is highly suggestive of a mind control cult. You don't need to believe The De Vinci Code to believe this bunch deserve a close watch.

While Ratzinger is not a member of Opus Dei, he is its man. He has been a longstanding champion of the Order, and the two Opus Dei cardinals, Julian Herranz of Spain and Juan Luis Cipriani Thorne of Peru, are reported to have been enthusiastic supporters of his candidacy.

It's true, Ratzinger was a Hitler Youth, but I find better reasons to regard him as a discouraging choice. Membership was compulsory after 1941, so his joining wasn't even a "youthful indiscretion" on the order of Robert Byrd's flirtation with the KKK, let alone an act worthy of Kurt Waldheim. The boy was forced to join the Hitler Youth, but no one made the man support Opus Dei.

And it's not what is known about Opus Dei that is the most disturbing, but as with many secret orders, it is what remains unknown, and surmised. Since 1982, it is the Pontiff's "personal prelature" - answerable not to local bishops, but to the Pope alone - so its power and influence, and potential for excess, are certain to increase. (And it's worth noting that the 1982 measure was coincident with the exposure of the Masonic infiltration of the Vatican.)

It's possible the infiltration of Freemasonry into the Vatican was stymied by Pope John Paul II's patronage of Opus Dei. While the two organizations may appear at odds, that may be largely for exoteric consumption. They may be unlikely bedfellows, but bedfellows just the same, if it's possible to speak of unlikely bedfellows and the priestly class without sniggering.

It's my observation that the worst abuses in the Church, even its Luciferian excesses, have been perpetrated under the cloak of conservativism. John Paul II and his "enforcer," Cardinal Ratzinger, targetted liberation theology and the progressive strains of Catholicism, while their coddled "conservative" clergy continued, largely unchecked, in the molestation, rape and ritual abuse of young children. While Ratzinger has condemned gay relationships as "deviant and evil," he has been an enabler of sexual abuse, by "accusing the media of exaggerating the extent of paedophilia in the American Church."

That this man is now Pope, and the secret society Opus Dei his legionaires, I wonder whether our already interesting times are about to become unbearably fascinating.

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/04/white-smoke-dark-skies.html

[screembloodymurder]

7. That picture is scary

It appears to be in motion.

[i miss america]

9. And check out his thumb on this one

It kind of looks like a circumcised penis

[LatePeriduct]

8. Sorry but these are who the leaders are....

These are the men and women, the dominionists of Opus-Dei and Knights of Malta who are fighting for total control of the government.

These are the people they always talk about, this is why the FDR documentaries constantly run, this is why there is so much infighting and this is why you feel like throwing up sometimes to wake up into the public truth.

"Known to many across many denominations and cultures as different names, such as the Brotherhood of all, the Order, Opus-Dei La Malta and the Supreme dominionists this inescapable foe is beyond all foes the world has seen before. Closest resemblence to Hitler's Nazi dynasty in 1921, the brothers and sisters of this group are sinister and deadly. For now it shall be called Opus Dei Malta, a selection of over 200 Opus-Dei and Knights of Malta members brought together for one purpose through leaders like Syung Moon and Walker Bush: The unification of Christ's 1000 year reign. Opus Dei and Knights of Malta are all one and the same thing, this mafia order of the catholic church which has grown around the world since the supposed dissolvement of the illuminati and rockefeller's spoiled Bilderberg groups."

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"Today currently, there is only one real Bilderberg group and it is an arm of the Opus and Malta. If that little hint there didn't scare you, what I'm about to talk about will.


Back in the 1800s when Opus-Dei had very little power since it had technically not re-birthed yet, Knights Templar and other cults engaged in rituals that are now reenacted at the Bohemian Grove. Today however, what remains of the Templar and other groups like The Finders, The Seekers and others have all been absorbed into the Catholic Church empire, Opus-Dei Malta and are not just for show."

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"Also known in history as Standard Oil, the largest oil firm in the world, H. Prescott Bush traded more than 70 million worth with the Nazis all by himself and wanted fascists to start a new religious order free of jews. Leo Strauss, took care of the other entanglements.

Leo Strauss a fascist by birth had to flee germany. The second arm of the government, was created by one single man, this is known as the global reach which Opus Dei Malta has under its control. This is known as the Council of Foreign Relations. Strauss wanted to create this to basically have a secret order of fascists which could become religious dictators.

Out of this the Catholic Church overtook all of them and began to be passed through history as one by one, men and women turned to the order of Opus. Strauss unknowingly played as a pawn for Prescott Bush, who then was able to use fascist senators to overthrow Roosevelt."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/8/204225/7523
http://tinyurl.com/9omx9 http://tinyurl.com/dnvvu

In the middle of the in-wars between the extreme branches of religion, the circle for Opus-Dei has become complete by electing a pope who stands for only their cause.

[Minstrel Boy]

5. The Opus Dei Awareness Network:

http://www.odan.org/

[leftofthedial]

6. whoa. this dude speaks infallibly for Gawd almighty

gawdjeezis's voice is a fascist, ultra-RW fundie