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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:52 PM
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HELP!!! HELP!!! HELP!!! HELP!!! HELP!!! (Frist/Bolton outrage)
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 01:57 PM by G_j
(I think the Pope can wait for a moment, this is happening TODAY!)

***can anyone suggest some action we can take? would it be best to start with calling Lugar's office... please help!!

situation explained in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3504881&mesg_id=3504881

US Senate Phone Number: 202/224-3121
. . .

Because Senator Frist's office feared that a Democratic Senator would object to the Hearings on the Floor of the Senate at 2 p.m., the Republicans -- in order to RAM THE BOLTON NOMINATION THROUGH -- have gone into recess.
. . .
By stopping all Senate business -- ALL business -- and planning to reconvene at 4:30 p.m., the Republican leadership has preempted an option that the minority would have had to make the administration comply with Senator Dodd's request for the National Security Agency intercepts that Bolton may have used to wage war against rival officials in the State Department.

<snip>


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Senator Lugar
WASHINGTON, D.C.
306 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-1401
(202) 224-4814
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:54 PM
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1. Kick - let's shut the phones down!! nt
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:58 PM
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2. also, clear talking points needed, I'm confused
thank you in advance :-)
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:01 PM
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7. We need to ask for 1 of 2 things
Ask for a delay in the vote. Ask them to stand and demand a delay until all of the NSAs that were requested from Bolton are delivered. If they won't do that, ask for a "no" vote on Bolton.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:08 PM
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15. Let's see if I know enough
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 02:10 PM by sfexpat2000
In not allowing the intercept evidence to be seen and discussed on the Floor, the Republicans are breaching their Constitutional duty of oversight.

For another, it this is such a good appointment, why are they trying to bury this evidence.

Common sense dictates that a serial abuser of personnel not be appointed to this important diplomatic post.

I don't know if that helps at all!

/edited for factual inaccuracy

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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:21 PM
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23. You said it way better than I could
:)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:27 PM
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25. Arnie! I know I've been awol but check this out --
We have Robert Pastor on TAPE deriding concerns about electronic voting! CSPAN this morning! This could be a good tool to debunk this fake reform commission!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:29 PM
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26. Wow. That is pretty huge!
We need to get that out somehow.

Have you started a thread in 2004 ER&D? If so, I'll get over there and keep it kicked and going.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:31 PM
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28. I did but it's not focused. When I posted it, I didn't get
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 02:49 PM by sfexpat2000
the USEFULNESS of his performance as an illustration!

I've called Nancy and Barbara's offices. I told them, this is coming home to them in CA now that Shelley is gone.

This is a fight they need to pick, and I think that we should start a new thread and point that out? They WILL go for it. Their seats are now officially in danger.

/spelling. Sheesh
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:06 PM
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39. Probably could use a new thread if it's too late to edit the old one
Then we'll probably have to kick the hell out of it and send it off here, there and everywhere.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:09 PM
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41. Good call. I'll post it tonight. Hands full right now.
That video is going to be really useful here. Hubris just doesn't pay.

:)
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:00 PM
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6. Double Kick
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 02:00 PM by Greylyn58
That man needs to be kicked out...we DO NOT need this jackass anywhere near the UN!!

:grr:
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:59 PM
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3. Fax this to Frist, Lugar, others: Bolton denied Ptnrship at law firm due
to abusive conduct of subordinates.

Here's the story:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/19/92031/4749
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:59 PM
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4. You might want to call Hagel and Chafee too.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:06 PM
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13. it was reported that Chafee had decided to vote yes
but i will call his office again anyway

Chafee

United States Senate
141A Russell
Washington, DC 20510
(202) 224-2921

170 Westminster Street
Suite 1100
Providence, RI 02903
(401) 453-5294

320 Thames Street
Room 272
Newport, RI 02840
(401) 845-0700

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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:00 PM
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5. kick to the top
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:01 PM
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8. kick
nominated
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:03 PM
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9. If you live in Indiana....
his other offices
Indianapolis: 317 226-5555
Jeffersonville: 812 288-3377
Fort Wayne: 219 422-1505
Merrillville: 219 736-9084
Evansville: 812 465-6313
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:04 PM
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10. Kick
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:05 PM
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11. From: http://www. thewashingtonnote.com/
Because Senator Frist's office feared that a Democratic Senator would object to the Hearings on the Floor of the Senate at 2 p.m., the Republicans -- in order to RAM THE BOLTON NOMINATION THROUGH -- have gone into recess.


Why you might ask?


The Senate would need to have been in session for two hours for a U.S. Senator to be able to object to the Foreign Relations Committee proceeding with its business.


By stopping all Senate business -- ALL business -- and planning to reconvene at 4:30 p.m., the Republican leadership has preempted an option that the minority would have had to make the administration comply with Senator Dodd's request for the National Security Agency intercepts that Bolton may have used to wage war against rival officials in the State Department.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:05 PM
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12. Update from theWashingtonNote
America Alone Alliance

Leadership League


April 19, 2005


Barbara Boxer Objects. . .Things Stall Momentarily for Bolton, but Only Temporarily


Senator Barbara Boxer has now objected to the Senate going into recess while other Senate Commitees meet.


That means that Boxer's action is forcing other Senators to vote on whether to go into recess or not. The Republicans will win by majority vote. And then the Senate will go into recess.


The Senate Foreign Relations Committee will then still be able to proceed with its scheduled business meeting at 2:15 p.m.


This is highly, highly unusual -- and demonstrates the lengths the Republican leadership seems willing to go to ram this nomination of John Bolton down the gullet of America.
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:08 PM
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14. and i can't figure out why
CAN'T THEY SEE what a creep this guy is?
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:20 PM
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22. Yeah, but he's THEIR creep
He's a neo so that helps them stand the stench.
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:33 PM
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29. Of course they can.
that's not viewed as a negative to them, but rather a reuirement that all their nominees must have.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:19 PM
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44. Sure they can
this is a hardy "Fuck You" to the rest of the world.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:09 PM
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16. Barbara Boxer rocks! even if her move ends up being symbolic
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 02:10 PM by G_j

:loveya:
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:10 PM
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17. yes, she is great
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:11 PM
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18. Yes, she does.
:)
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:11 PM
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19. She's the only REAL dem that seems to want to fight for us,
the American people who don't seem to stand a chance with this administration in office. I'm on the opposite coast, but damn I love a certain California senator right now!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:15 PM
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20. Called Lugar's office.
Was told the Senator supports the nominee. So, I asked why, if this is such a good nomination, Senator Dodd's request should be foiled -- espacially if there's nothing there that won't take a little sunshine.

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:23 PM
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24. yea, as I was speaking to an aid
she just informed me that it's too late, they had adjourned.
:argh:

All I could was ask that my outrage be noted..

time to call Hagel and Chaffe again I guess, but this is not looking good! :-(
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:45 PM
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33. Is it too late to do anything at all now?
Or is there still something more we can do?

-wildflower
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:50 PM
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34. We can call in support of Kerry, Dodd, Boxer
We can call Lugar's office and ask that he do his job.

NGU
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:53 PM
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36. Thanks! n/t
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:17 PM
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21. kick
:kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:29 PM
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27. kick!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:33 PM
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30. kick nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:36 PM
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31. Kerry reading the riot act to the Rethugnicans.
Good man, John Kerry :)
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:41 PM
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32. He is PISSED
Give 'em hell John!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:51 PM
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35. Chris Dodd rocking on! If I didn't live in CA, I'd move to CT! n/t
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:57 PM
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37. The Dems are shiningly rational in these hearings
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

The Republicans are coming off as bullies and obstructionist scumbags, Lugar especially.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:06 PM
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38. Agree. And I wonder what they have on Lugar to make him
act in this shameless way. It's got to be big.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:16 PM
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43. They've promised him lots of BBVs and power forever
You sells yer soul, you takes yer chances as the old saying goes.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:27 PM
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45. It's so gross to watch the actual sale, isn't it? n/t
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 08:40 AM
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52. Yes. It's quite shameful and disgusting. nt
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:41 PM
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51. it seems like he would be getting ready to retire...
and I don't think he's had to worry about winning an election in quite awhile.


It's sad - I was thinking he looked rather soulless as well.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:07 PM
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40. Now, Joe Biden, yelling while he sits right next to Lugar.
Too bad I don't believe a word he says, either. :(
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:16 PM
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42. Norm Coleman (R LIAR, Minn) is reframing the Bolton
charges as "not unusual" behavior -- And Kerry is calling his little mendacity out.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:35 PM
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46. Voinivich is CAVING, Hagel is wobbly. This is UP FOR GRABS.
Call, call, call Luger, Hagel, Voinivich.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:41 PM
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47. Obama is up now. He's being deferential to senior memebers
but interrogating the process as the same time.

He looks like a grown up, he acts like a grown up.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:47 PM
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48. CSPAN 2 Reshowing Bolton Nomination Showdown Right Now
If someone knows how to post this it just started in replay seconds ago on C-Span 2
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:24 PM
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49. Here's the commentary on the reruns :)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:31 PM
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50. Using the NSA for domestic espionage is a big no no.
Using it as a weapon against his political rivals is plain evil.


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