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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:06 PM
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Media: Ratzinger wasn't a Nazi, he was a devout Catholic!


Good to know the two are mutually exclusive.
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ninty Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:09 PM
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1. Is Ratzinger in those pictures?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:10 PM
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2. No, he'd be a ten year old boy at the time or so.
*sighs*

More stupid NAZI POPE!!!1111oneone! crap.
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:11 PM
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5. No.
Those are pictures of various priests, bishops. nuns, and cardinals in the Church who fully cooperated with the Nazi regime. The Church in Germany fully went along with Hitler--the same Church that trained Ratzinger.
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wildmanj Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:29 PM
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18. went along
and are we to publish the pictures of all the jewish people who supported the communist when first they took over russia and who actually served in the government at that time-----let it go---look forward and dream of tomorrow and spend your days and night getting to know the other human that make up the human race and then things won't seem so bad----i'm sure the german people would freely admit that they made a horrible mistake in looking to a supreme leader for guidance----are we making the same mistake today :toast:
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:13 PM
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9. Hitler wasn't a nazi, he was a devout catholic.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:10 PM
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3. Oh, so now all Catholics are Nazis?
Well I guess I've been a Nazi all this time and didn't realize it. :(
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:11 PM
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6. Certainly not. I'm Catholic too.
I'm saying that "He's a catholic" is a bullshit defense against the Nazi charge.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:17 PM
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:10 PM
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4. If you had put it in words,
the thread would have been locked.

All this thread needs is some ratline links.

No opinion; just the facts.
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:13 PM
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8. Why.
The words would have been nothing more than, "Cardinal X supported Hitler, as did Bishops Y and Z. Therefore the argument "He is not a Nazi because he is Catholic" is spurious." How is that lockworthy?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:19 PM
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wickywom Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:12 PM
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7. Thanks so much for the pics.... BUT...
Ratzinger was a 14 year old boy then-- it's hardly accurate to relate him to those pictures.
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:14 PM
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10. Why?
If his behavior during or since was at all different from the widespread German Catholic collaboration, I would agree. Ratzinger 'went along' with the Nazis until '45. As did the men above. Ratzinger was a Catholic. As were the men above. And he learned Catholicism in seminaries directly under the men above.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:17 PM
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12. People change....
Read Ratzinger's autobiography and you'll see what a profound mistake he made. I don't like Ratzinger, but not because of something he did in his youth....if that were the case, I'm sure A LOT of you would hate me for what I did. :(
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:20 PM
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16. He's a politician.
You'll find nobody in Germany, save a few skinhead neonazis, who will admit to liking Hitler or supporting Nazism.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:33 PM
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19. So you know him personally?
He told you he was only politicking when he condemned Nazism?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:17 PM
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11. Any pictures of ...
...the thousands of Catholic priests who were sent to concentration camps?
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:19 PM
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14. You mean like John Paul 2 was?
No. Not really.

But Ratzinger wasn't at all like those Catholics. Those Catholics renounced the Nazi teachings and were sent to camps. These Catholics, like Ratzinger, went along with the Nazis because it was safer.
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