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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:46 PM
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Frist suspends all Senate business to ram Bolton through
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 01:13 PM by swag
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000487.html
(via www.warandpiece.com)
on edit: updates are at www.thewashingtonnote.com , on second edit: US Senate Phone Number: 202/224-3121
. . .

Because Senator Frist's office feared that a Democratic Senator would object to the Hearings on the Floor of the Senate at 2 p.m., the Republicans -- in order to RAM THE BOLTON NOMINATION THROUGH -- have gone into recess.
. . .
By stopping all Senate business -- ALL business -- and planning to reconvene at 4:30 p.m., the Republican leadership has preempted an option that the minority would have had to make the administration comply with Senator Dodd's request for the National Security Agency intercepts that Bolton may have used to wage war against rival officials in the State Department.

I don't know how Senator Lugar can tolerate such abuse of the minority. This is a disdainful and cynical move by the White House and Bill Frist.

- Steve Clemons
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:51 PM
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1. I can't believe this news is sinking below the Papal shit.
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 12:51 PM by swag
Clearly the White House and Senate Majority leader's office knows what to do when people are distracted by garbage.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:53 PM
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3. I can't either
Priorities I guess. :shrug:
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:52 PM
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2. Now's the time to fillibuster
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:59 PM
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61. Agreed.Think 2 Republicans might sway...
Our Dem's are finally fighting mad and being heard. Can't deny them respect!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:53 PM
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4. Franken mentioned this on AAR an hour or so ago.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:54 PM
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7. Clemons' latest update is that Boxer is objecting
it will go to a vote, and Republicans will win, of course.

Loads of confusion.

www.thewashingtonnote.com
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:09 PM
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22. It says the meeting will still be at 2:15 although for awhile people
thought it was delayed until 4:30???????
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:54 PM
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5. Holy crap! This is outrageous.
Bolton is an evil thug and they are determined to have him appointed no matter what objections anyone, especially any Republicans, might have.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:54 PM
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6. Bolton's nomination must be
in deep trouble or else Frist wouldn't resort to such measures.

It is, however, another great example of abuse of power by Frist and his Republican lackeys.....
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:56 PM
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8. This is BIG!
Franken and a guest whose name I didn't catch were talking about this.

They said that one Senator has to object or it's all over and there is no way to stop the vote.

The guest said there really is very little political risk in this and he thought Boxer or Dodd could do it, but he wasn't sure at all if they would.

They are hiding something is the materials Dodd has asked for. CLASSIC stonewalling.

Call your Senators and tell them not to let the vote happen this afternoon!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:57 PM
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10. Yeah, those NSA memos that possibly indicate that Bolton
asked NSA to stop spying on North Korea and spy on Bolton's colleagues instead.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:02 PM
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14. Isn't Boxer objecting? n/t
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:05 PM
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20. Yes, as Clemons updates
Barbara Boxer Objects. . .Things Stall Momentarily for Bolton, but Only Temporarily
Senator Barbara Boxer has now objected to the Senate going into recess while other Senate Commitees meet.

That means that Boxer's action is forcing other Senators to vote on whether to go into recess or not. The Republicans will win by majority vote. And then the Senate will go into recess.

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee will then still be able to proceed with its scheduled business meeting at 2:15 p.m.

. . .

www.thewashingtonnote.com
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:41 PM
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35. They are hiding something
They're hiding something for sure. Why else would they do this? Fucking assholes. The republicans should NEVER be trusted with power. They don't know how to handle it.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 04:01 PM
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62. Again. I always agree w/FreedomAngel82.
Shew. This is something else to witness, huh. Now, we know our Dem's are fighting big-time and the Repub's have something to hide.

Breaking for forced Recess! 5:01 pm.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:56 PM
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9. Let's kick this one up
:kick:

Too important to be overshadowed by the damn Pope.
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IowaGuy Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:59 PM
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11. Kick (nt)
:kick:
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:59 PM
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12. kick n/t
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:00 PM
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13. If you have a Republican Senator, might still be time to call
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 01:03 PM by swag
and demand they vote with Boxer's objection and against suspension of the Senate to ram Bolton through.

202/224-3121, and ask for your Senator or

http://www.senate.gov/general/resources/pdf/senators_phone_list.pdf
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freedom_to_read Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. bump for justice
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. Are you kidding, "my" Republican senator IS
Bill :scared: Frist.

:puke:
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:07 PM
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21. Lo Siento Mucho
America's Foremost Vivisectionist!
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:54 PM
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43. ...
I'm sick :puke:
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:53 PM
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59. My Democratic Senator is Barbara Boxer, the best Senator ever!
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 02:53 PM by Liberty Belle
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

Boxer for President in '08!
Accept no substitutes!
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:59 PM
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66. ..and your other one is Lamar Alexander...
...who lost his spine somewhere in the voting booth. Frist is annoying because heminstigates this shit. Alexander is annoying because he just votes the party line.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #13
36. My Senator
is Frist and it's damn impossible with him. He's a prick.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:02 PM
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15. Kick
More of the same old tricks but important.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:03 PM
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16. "Hurry! While Everyone's distracted by the new pope!"
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:04 PM
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19. The republic is being carjacked and
nobody knows because every channel is Benedict TV!

Somebody on our side PLEASE stand up and if its BOXER so be it! :applause:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:16 PM
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23. Kick
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:23 PM
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24. Vote to recess in the Senate now but the Dems are objecting so
now a vote is being held.

C-span 2 "voice" said this was "unusual".

Yep and, if they go nuclear, this will be standard. No more operating by unanimous consent.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:24 PM
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25. kick
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Maiden England Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:29 PM
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26. Weapon of Mass Distraction - found in Rome
:eyes:

How very handy...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:32 PM
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27. on cspan 2 right now Frist is having the sgt. at arms round up all
the senators, i can't beleive this. The gop will pay a heavy price in 06, i'm convinced of that.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. No, I'm convinced this is final proof of voter disenfranchisement
If they even had the faintest inkling this could possibly be used against them in the future they wouldn't dare try it.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #30
39. Exactly.
I have been thinking this since 2000 and it seems to be correct.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:43 PM
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38. Why the hell is he doing that?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:32 PM
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28. damn, PLEASE keep this kicked!
perhaps we should let Lugar's office know how we feel.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:34 PM
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29. Can't the Dems filibuster this???
These fascist SOB's MUST BE STOPPED!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:35 PM
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31. C-span2 schedule now has Bolton Hearings at 2:45 - as soon as
the Senate is in recess - after this vote.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:39 PM
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33. What are they voting on right now? I'm watching but i missed it
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:43 PM
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37. Putting the Senate into recess. I'm not sure exactly how the question
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 01:44 PM by Pirate Smile
is phrased because all the Dems are voting Aye. It will pass - majority vote is all that is needed.

This will keep Boxer from placing a hold on the Bolton nomination by objecting. If the Senate was in session for 2 hours she could do a hold.

No hold. Bolton - Foreign Policy Committee hearing to vote on Bolton after this vote.

edit to add - normally the Senate goes into recess by unanimous consent. The Dems objected which made a vote required to recess the Senate.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:39 PM
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32. Lugar's phone numbers:
Contact Senator Lugar

SENATOR LUGAR'S OFFICE LOCATIONS
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

WASHINGTON, D.C.
306 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-1401
(202) 224-4814

INDIANAPOLIS
1180 Market Tower
10 West Market Street
Indianapolis, Indiana 46204
(317) 226-5555

NORTHEAST
1300 South Harrison Street
Room 3158
Fort Wayne, Indiana 46802
(260) 422-1505

NORTHWEST
175 West Lincolnway
Suite G-1
Valparaiso, Indiana 46383
ph: (219) 548-8035

SOUTHEAST
1201 East 10th Street
Room 103
Jeffersonville, Indiana 47130
(812) 288-3377

SOUTHWEST
101 NW Martin Luther King Boulevard
Room 122
Evansville, Indiana 47708
(812) 465-6313


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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:40 PM
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34. Anybody keeping track of the votes?
Does anyone know where it stands right now?


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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:47 PM
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40. I don't know what the hell is going on
I've heard snowe and landrieu? vote aye but I've no idea what they're voting on.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:56 PM
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45. Now they are voting on a motion to allow the senate to recess
this will allow the Foreign Relations committee to hold its meeting to vote on Bolton

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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:51 PM
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41. kick! helpless, sinking-feeling kick!
Please keep the commentary going for those of us in the cube farms!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:52 PM
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42. kick! kick!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:55 PM
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44. Kick
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:59 PM
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46. Kick it up - PEOPLE, PAY ATTENTION
Get off Popevision, snap into reality
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:00 PM
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47. This is SO fucking DIRTY!
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 02:01 PM by in_cog_ni_to
FASCIST BASTARDS!

FASCISTS! FASCISTS!FASCISTS! FASCISTS!FASCISTS! FASCISTS!FASCISTS! FASCISTS!FASCISTS! FASCISTS!FASCISTS! FASCISTS!FASCISTS! FASCISTS!
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:03 PM
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48. Right now they are voting to allow the senate to recess
This will allow the Foreign Relations committee to meet and vote on the Bolton nomination. The previous proceedings were attempts to prevent the Foreign Relations committee from meeting, with the hopes of delaying the vote.

C-span2 will broadcast the Foreign Relations committee meeting so we get to watch this horror move forward.

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:04 PM
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49. kick!
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:11 PM
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50. kick
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:12 PM
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51. kick
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:18 PM
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52. kicking for democracy...
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:19 PM
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53. The hearing is on
Biden has new dirt. Sounds good.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:25 PM
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54. What exactly just happened? Kerry and Boxer look really pissed
at Lugar.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:25 PM
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55. Chairman Lugar knocks it down, looks to force vote through
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:37 PM
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57. Ok, gotcha. I get what's going on now.
Yay Kerry and Boxer!
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:45 PM
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58. CSpan Watchers - Please keep us wage-slaves up to date!
Thanks
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:55 PM
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60. Biden , Kerry , Boxer, et.al. want to go to closed session
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 02:55 PM by bear425
in order to debate new allegations against Bolton. Lugar doesn't want to go into closed session. Just wants to go ahead with vote on confirmation.
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:26 PM
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56. kick. n/t
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 04:07 PM
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63. kick!!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 04:53 PM
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64. Wow, what a fucking rollercoaster
There are great threads here at DU and at kos on the hearings, and excellent summations at

www.thewashingtonnote.com
anw
www.warandpiece.com

I'm not shilling for these sites, but they've been terrific with hard and real news.
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