I now support Bush's war 100%.

[LoZoccolo]

Here is my logic:

- Senator Byrd was against the war.
- Senator Byrd was a member of the KKK.
- I am against the KKK.

Therefore, I am now behind Bush and his war 100%.

And I am appalled at the DUer's out there who support and defend the KKK. Not their right to assemble or free speech, but actually support the KKK in standing with Senator Byrd in his opposition to the Iraq war, and Bush's mission accomplished.



_{NOTE: This post is sarcastic.}

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. Here's the difference.

Byrd has come full circle and has completely distanced himself from his old philosophies.

Ratzinger's rhetoric, while not exactly full fledged Nazi, still has echoes of the uber-right wing Nazi sentiment in his sermons.

[IrateCitizen]

3. Here's another difference...

Byrd voluntarily joined the KKK as a young man. Ratzinger was forced to join the Hitler Youth. Therefore, Byrd is actually much worse than Ratzinger, because Byrd's racism was a CHOICE.

Do you really want to continue playing this stupid game?

[atreides1]

6. But

We don't know for sure that Pope Benedict XVI, was forced to join the Hitler Jugend, not all German youth were members, and those that didn't join still survived the war

[Don Claybrook]

7. And it was a bad CHOICE

The Nazi's choice may have been a tougher one to make, but be certain that he did in fact make that choice.

I do believe that if W himself had been named Pope, some here would insist that we no longer criticize him.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

8. No one disagrees what Byrd did in the PAST was wrong.

It's the PRESENT we're concerned about. And it's not a stupid game. Both their pasts are relevant, but some of us are willing to forgive one and not the other based on what they're doing now.

If you don't want to participate in "this stupid game", by all means, you can hit the "ignore thread" button. That's what it's there for.

[IrateCitizen]

2. Good one.

And it helps highlight the useless absolutism being expressed by so many DUers here.

I'm not a huge fan of the Catholic Church, but this shit of saying that the new Pope was a Nazi is just plain ridiculous. He was a young German man during WWII -- his being in the Hitler Youth and serving as a helper for an artillery unit is not the same as him being a volunteer in the SS or a sadistic guard at Auschwitz.

[Sparkle]

4. That's right. And people change.

That governor from Alabama comes to mind. What's his name?

[ragin_acadian]

5. George Wallace?

[Sparkle]

9. Yes, that's who I am talking about.

Of course he didn't change until after he was shot. But I guess that's as good as it gets.

[ragin_acadian]

10. from what i heard, his post civil rights apology was

something to the effect of "that's the way politics were conducted then"

which i can verify, i took a florida politics course, and if you look at any FL campaign posters pre 1965, all the candidates would accuse each other of supporting the "mongrelization of the white race"