Who cares is Ratzinger is Pope?

[sugapablo]

Who cares is Ratzinger is Pope?

He's just another example of extremist thought pushing the world further to the right politically.

His election is only one more reason for revolution.



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[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

1. I do - and so do all the Progressive Catholics

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. I wish you good fortune, friend.

And following winds. I am nominally Episcopalian. We have our own problems.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

3. Thanks as usual

:)

[ArkDem]

4. Well written!

[Sparkle]

5. I'm surprised the Cathoalic church hasn't split.

Most catholics I know, do not adhere to all the rules of the catholic church. So why not split?

[sugapablo]

6. They HAVE split, several times.

From Wikipedia:

Doctrinal disputes, including that about the Filioque clause, conflicts between methods of Church government, and perhaps the evolution of separate rites and practices, precipitated a split in AD 1054 that divided the Catholic Church once again, this time between a "West" and an "East". England, France, the Holy Roman Empire, Scandinavia, and much of the rest of Western Europe were in the Western camp, and Greece, Russia and many of other Slavic lands, Anatolia, and the Christians in Syria and Egypt who accepted the Council of Chalcedon made up the eastern camp. This division is called the East-West Schism. The most recent major split within the Catholic Church occurred in the 16th century with the Protestant Reformation, after which many parts of the Catholic Church rejected the leadership of Rome and reformed themselves, becoming Protestant.

[ArkDem]

7. Who, would you say, adhere's to all the rules of their religion?

Or party, for that matter.

[sugapablo]

8. Uh...

Fundamentalists. They're all around.

[ArkDem]

15. Brilliant.

[Zynx]

14. Where do you think all the other churches come from?

All branches of Christianity are some sort of splinter.

[devilgrrl]

9. I would think that many Jews care.

What a silly question... get out of the hall and back to class.

[sugapablo]

10. Ah..

Ah...Jews knew John Paul was a freak and ANYONE who would succeed him would go back to the good old days of hatred, intolerance, and persecution.

I'm Jewish, and it just comes with the territoty. It's an axiom of the universe: All the world hates the Jews.

Why should the Pope, no matter who he is, feel any differently?

Hell the Vatican isn't much bigger than Israel. Maybe one of these Pope's will think "Hey, I bet we could take the Holy Land?"

[Katidid]

11. It won't be the first time .....

[Malva Zebrina]

12. Everybody should be concerned

Catholic or not. I am concerned for the women of the world, the gays and for all human beings.

Look at the last election, where a warmonger fascist, born again Christian, whose policies have destroyed much of what we once knew as our beloved country.

Catholics were programmed from the pulpit to vote for Bush on the abortion (birth control) issue and also on the gay marriage issue

They went ahead full steam urging people to vote against other citizens and their rights as human beings.

It was the most immoral thing to ever come from a church, although advocating slavery as a godly thing, might give that some competition.

From the pulpit, to fliers on car windows, to brochures and pamphlets mailed out--much money spent upon breaking the will, the hearts and the rights of other human beings through religious gobbly gook that the people were almost forced,out of fear of a hell and the loss of a heaven,(perpetual life) to do.

They did a LOT of damage, while ignoring the injustice of Iraq, which their own leader Pope, condemned.

So, now with Ratzinger in there, well connected to Opus Dei, we will see more and more of the same immoral dictates coming from tbe Vatican. and we should all be concerned.

[sugapablo]

13. Well...

Well I'm glad you see the problem so clearly.

Now...what are you going to DO about it?

[Malva Zebrina]

16. I am on the outside looking in

an atheist with little voice except on talk threads. :-) I am observer not liking what I see coming from the religion that has gone to the right and knowing how the policies of a church can affect me or my loved ones.

So many progressives here claim to have a conscience and use it to buck the church on things they do not agree with. They talk of leaving the church now that Ratzinger is Pope. That is one way, I guess.

If it were me, a full blooded American with compassion and love for human beings, I would have been right behind and put fliers for Kerry on the cars,right on top of the ones for Bush. I would have passed out brochures for Kerry at the church door after mass on Sunday and formed a group of like minded congregants to show opposition. Probably I would have been excommunicated, or at the least "shunned" by the others in the church. The question is--would that have been allowed? If not, then certainly it begs the question: Why not?