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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:02 PM
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Playing into Prophecy: New Pope
http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

Why did he choose this name? He cannot be unware. The question is why?
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:05 PM
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1. Mysticism.
Mumbo-Jumbo is the great philosophical space-filler. People like mysticism.

I doubt that his choice was simply happenstance.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:10 PM
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2. Yes, but also fits nicely into
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:29 PM
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13. Jerusalem fell
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:15 PM
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3. So essentially we're one pope away from the Rapture?
well alrighty then.

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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:17 PM
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4. No, one Pope away from WW III. n/m
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:18 PM
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7. Scary
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 12:21 PM by FreedomAngel82
I hope I'm not around then. :scared: The way Bush is going though it could be tomorrow for all we know. I still go by what Jesus said about the end times: it can come like a thief through the night.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:19 PM
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8. ?? doesn't this passage refer directly to revelations tho?
(In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.)


altho i don't deny WWIII will be part of the end of all things.

I'm still not exactly a rapture believer - but if it does happen, i'd like to stay back please.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:30 PM
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14. The Rapture.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:41 PM
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16. Right... but it starts on Adar 2 (Jewish year) under this
Benedict pope. What the hell is this game about? I don't believe in the Rapture or anything like it. It is a mock reality invented for small minds. What bothers me is that they are playing to this "reality". They are creating the impression. Blah. I am really pissed!!!!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:22 PM
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9. When they have their "Rapture" can we have their cars and houses?
Just askin'. ;)
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:29 PM
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12. Lord knows we could use the assets...
we need to get things back in shape.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:25 PM
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10. 1 Pope to GO

ab labore solis (current Pope, John Paul II)

gloria olivae (second to last pope)********(see where "olive" came from)*****

petrus romanus (Peter the Roman would be the last pope)


http://ad2004.com/prophecytruths/Articles/Prophecy/Malachy.html
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:28 PM
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11. is Ratzinger jewish then?
or are we talking about the nazi background?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:43 PM
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17. ?
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:02 PM
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18. In reference to the Olive thing....
apparently The Olive bit is in reference to Judaism being the cultured Olive, and Christianity being a Wild Olive branch grafted onto the tree.

They are both equal but different. I'm jsut not sure how that bit of prophesy could be made to fit ratzinger.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:12 PM
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19. No no, I am not saying
That the prophecy is coming to pass. I am simply saying they are playing "into" the prophecy. Yes, on the branch but there other interpretations. The point is, this not be fully compliant to fill the Malachy prophecy... he took the name for one reason and one reason only: to play on fear.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:32 PM
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20. Well perhaps. i have no idea what his motivations may be...
i just think we need to be careful not to make the prophecy fir the man or vice versa tho.

All that does is lead to hysteria.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:17 PM
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5. Self-fulfilling prophecy, old as the hills.
Tired old men with their tired old ideas aren't going to come up with a new angle.
This is good news, because the sooner their over-reach causes their implosion the better we can get on with actually focusing on living.
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:17 PM
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6. You might find this interesting too
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3504289

This one seems to have singled out Ratzinger even back in 1996.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:36 PM
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15. Yeah, but the fundies don't realize
That makes their leader Bush what? Born June, 6, 1946? This is sick, this game of manipulation and I am really sick of how they are using prophecy as their script. What nickname in Skull and Bones? Magog! You guys, it was like he was raised to play the lead in the nutcase all start cast of let's make it "REAL". What the hell is going on here?

He even said this, which smells too much of phrophecy of what the Anti-Christ is supposed to say and I am not even Christian and I know this. So they are surely playing games.

Bush: "Many in our country do not know the pain of poverty, but we can listen to those who do. And I can pledge our nation to a goal: When we see that wounded traveler on the road to Jericho, we will not pass to the other side"

This is a game and it is sick the way they are playing on peoples' faith.
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