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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 11:53 AM
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will hannity hold ratzinger's past against him like he does with byrd?
wil he call him Pope 'hitler youth" Penedict the way he refers to the senator as Robert "kkk" Byrd?
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 11:54 AM
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1. Excellent question!
However, don't count on it.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 11:57 AM
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2. hannity a hypocrite?
what are the odds?
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 11:59 AM
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3. I swear! That's the first thought that crossed my mind.
If Insannity wants to try and hold Byrd's feet to the fire for behavior 60-some years ago, what will he say about the new Pope?
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:05 PM
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4. nope....he's just as much of a hypocrite
as the DU Byrd supporters who will hold Ratzinger's
required involvement in the Hitler Youth as a child against him.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:18 PM
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5. has ratzinger apologized?
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 12:18 PM by Adenoid_Hynkel
and is byrd anywhere near the level of dinosaur-era rightwinger

false analogy
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Macadian Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:39 PM
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6. Was membership in the KKK compulsary????
Wasn't Byrd a voluntary member well into his twenties?

Try to educate yourself before slamming the spiritual leader of 2 billion people.

From TimesOnline Article:
The son of a rural Bavarian police officer, Ratzinger was six when Hitler came to power in 1933. His father, also called Joseph, was an anti-Nazi whose attempts to rein in Hitler’s Brown Shirts forced the family to move home several times.

In 1937 Ratzinger’s father retired and the family moved to Traunstein, a staunchly Catholic town in Bavaria close to the Führer’s mountain retreat in Berchtesgaden. He joined the Hitler Youth aged 14, shortly after membership was made compulsory in 1941.

He quickly won a dispensation on account of his training at a seminary. “Ratzinger was only briefly a member of the Hitler Youth and not an enthusiastic one,” concluded John Allen, his biographer.

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PST Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:41 PM
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7. don't change the subject!
is what I was told when I made that argument somewhere else..

we have some very brave DU members here today who would've stood up against the nazi's for sure.
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Macadian Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:07 PM
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8. I'm not changing the subject!!!
I am responding to the opening post in this thread.

will hannity hold ratzinger's past against him like he does with byrd? wil he call him Pope 'hitler youth" Penedict the way he refers to the senator as Robert "kkk" Byrd?

Again, you should educate yourself before claiming that this pope is a nazi.

To paint him as a Nazi is assinine.

From TimesOnline Article:
The son of a rural Bavarian police officer, Ratzinger was six when Hitler came to power in 1933. His father, also called Joseph, was an anti-Nazi whose attempts to rein in Hitler’s Brown Shirts forced the family to move home several times.

In 1937 Ratzinger’s father retired and the family moved to Traunstein, a staunchly Catholic town in Bavaria close to the Führer’s mountain retreat in Berchtesgaden. He joined the Hitler Youth aged 14, shortly after membership was made compulsory in 1941.

He quickly won a dispensation on account of his training at a seminary. “Ratzinger was only briefly a member of the Hitler Youth and not an enthusiastic one,” concluded John Allen, his biographer.


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PST Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:12 PM
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11. read the whole post not just the subject line..
:hi:
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Macadian Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:48 PM
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13. Not only did I read it....
.... I quoted it!!

Pehaps I am overly sensitive given all the Pope-Is-A-Nazi posts that have been scattered throughout today.
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sugapablo Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:09 PM
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9. Nice
Although, we all know Republicans hold double standards.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:10 PM
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10. Of course not
Probably not. I'm not going to hold my breath.
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:36 PM
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12. It's about as likely...
....as expecting a lot of people here to hold Senator Byrd's KKK past against him in the same way as they are demonizing the Pope for something he was conscripted into doing when he was 14 years old.

It's a two-way street no matter how much everyone on both sides try to ignore it.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:52 PM
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14. nazi point may be arguable, but he's definitely a facist
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 03:54 PM by Adenoid_Hynkel
given his attacks on liberalism and liberation theology

though i don't buy the 'i was just following orders" BS to defend him

spirtual leader of millions or not, the guy's a prick and he was forced on the faithful by a buch of rightwingers.
the process is faulty and corrupt. this is why i don't believe in catholicsm and i'll gladly excercise my right to call the guy for what he is-a piece of rightwing shit who may be further to the fringe than dubya

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