don't forget timmy's reason for the O.K.C. bombing, revenge for Koresh

[mopaul]

revenge for the branch davidiots, a cult of child molesting murdering maniacs that was allowed to fester like thousands of other conclaves of crazies spread across the landscape of your nation.

don't forget that rush egged him on, and escaped all blame for it.

[bushisanidiot]

1. Boil Ass Limbaugh and "Ann" the man Coulter mourn McVeigh's

death.. not those who were slaughtered that day.

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
-- Ann Coulter to George Gurley, New York Observer, August 21, 2002

[mopaul]

2. timmy and terry are ann's kind of man

no doubt about it. she's too chickenshit of course to do anything herself, just egg on those with real cajones to do the dirty deeds.

chickenshit annie

[Devlzown]

5. I've seen her type in sleazy bars.

She runs around flirting with everyone who makes eye contact and then, when some drunk finally makes a move on her, she screams, "My old man's gonna kick your ass!"

[Ganja Ninja]

4. And Time Magazine honors Ann Coulter by putting her on ...

the cover for the anniversary. They should have put that quote on the cover along with this pic:

[CornField]

19. A head's up about that photograph

While everyone else in OKC ran to help, a certain fellow who worked at a bank ran to his car for a camera. He spent the day snapping photograph after photograph and then spent the next few days confering with his attorney as the photographs were sold to the highest bidder.

IMO, he, a profiteer of death, is lower than the scum at the bottom of the pond.

[Cleita]

3. Yeah, and they were all white.

I don't think there was an African American, Mexican American nor undocumented worker among the the Waco wackos.

However, I think no one thought they should be blown up and burned to a crisp. The only real criminal here was David Koresh and maybe a few of his close circle. The rest of these people were victims.

So if our government is willing to to this to a group of white people, imagine what's in store for the rest of us non-white people if we fly into their radar.

[mopaul]

6. there was such an attack, in N.Y. or N.J. in the 70's?

a group of black activists with kids inside was seiged and a whole city block caught fire when they dropped 'concussion' bombs on the building from copters, iraq war style.

i'm trying to look up the info, any help would be appreciated.

[zbdent]

7. That was in Philadelphia

I don't have the details, but I think that it was the very early 80s, and it involved a dense collection of rundown housing . . .

[mopaul]

10. exactly, thanks

i remember it well

[MountainLaurel]

8. It was Philly

And the name of the organization was MOVE.

[Cleita]

9. I remember that and they did burn up a whole city block in

a low income black neighborhood. I don't know if you will find anything archived that far back online. I think it was in Philadelphia.

[Hobo]

11. It was in Philadelphia

The back to Africa movement called MOVE. They had a had lots of run ins with the city cops. There was a shootout earlier where a policeman was killed. The "Bombing", when a whole city block of row homes was destroyed, was a real black eye for the city. I think there were 7-8 Move Members killed, a young boy was the only survivor.

Hobo

[Montauk6]

17. I'm glad this was brought up!

I remember well at the time how a lot of the right-wing callers (this was when I was "in the life") actually praised then-Mayor Wilson Goode for cleaning out these 'commie scumbags.' I was in my early 20s, didn't think much about it, thought hmmmm maybe a bit extreme but, hey, they weren't cooperating with authorities, so maybe they brought it on themselves.

Cut to a few years later, the siege at Waco (didn't this kinda sorta start, like Somalia, on GHW Bush's watch late in the game?). Wingers were losing their MINDS. Everyone on talk radio, shortwave, longwave, whatever was up in arms about this abuse of police power (ironic, is it not, that these same people argue vociferously that this is the SOLE legitimate purpose of government). This was also around the time of the Ruby Ridge standoff with Randy "Separationism not separatism" Weaver where feds took out his wife, son and dog; it was a bad scene to say the least.

Anyway, in listening to all the rhetoric, I felt uneasy and I think it was one of those Moments that started me questioning my own politics. I remember thinking, but wait, what's so different about Waco and Philly? How can you favor blowing up a neighborhood block in the inner city but scream bloody murder at the spectacle of an isolated compound being sizzled? I just couldn't accept such blatant hypocrisy, and that's when I started to wake up to what these folks were truly about (hey, better late than never, right?).

[mopaul]

18. i think it was in the news for about 2 days

but i do remember seeing the whole city block on fire.

then, dropped off the radar, and into the memory hole. i couldn't even remember the details.

[mtnester]

12. 1985 aganist MOVE members

Temple University has quite the archives on it

http://www.library.temple.edu/collections/urbana/psic-01.htm

[TWiley]

13. I think a more important connection is with

the Christian Identity Church and with the Dr. Pierce of the "National Alliance" and author of the "Turner Diaries"

You will hear subtle adaptations of their rhetoric whenever lipbalm or a bush republican speaks.

[RethugAssKicker]

14. No, he belived in white supremacy

He was a follower of the so-called "Christian Identity" redneck movement in this country. It is actually quite strong.... He was also caught with the Turner Diaries in his pickup. (the hate bible for killing blacks and Jews)....


Most of all our home-grown terrorists fit into this mold, even the kids who were responsible for the Columnbine High School killings.

BUT THE MEDIA DOESNT BRING THIS SHIT UP HARDLY AT ALL!.

WHY???... because deep down they believe the same thing too!!!

[ArkDem]

15. Fortunately, those kids will never be abused again!

[mopaul]

16. yeah, they should'a just left koresh alone to his prayers

don't go there ark. how deep in the woods are you?

[ArkDem]

20. I just thought the government could have found a better way

to cure the disease.