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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:19 AM
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Wow! Local Iowa TV Station Covers Gosch/Gannon/Guckert Story
On the 5:00 AM Edition of KWWL News out of Waterloo. Noreen Gosch is asking for a DNA test. Here's the link:

http://www.kwwl.com/Global/story.asp?S=3226392

"When we talked with Johnny’s mother, Noreen Gosch, she told us Johnny visited her in 1997, “The night that he came here, he was wearing jeans and a shirt and a coat on because it was March. It was cold and his hair was long, it was shoulder length and it was straight and dyed black.” After the visit, Noreen had the FBI create a picture she says looked like Johnny. But, in light of recent events, people like Rothstein question the picture’s accuracy. He says John has had plastic surgery, “I do have information that Johnny was worked on and this is quite reliable information.”

Perhaps just as reliable as the recent phone call Noreen Gosch received telling her Jeff Gannon is her son. Mrs. Gosch says, "He’s been in touch with Gannon for months and months and knows him to be Johnny Gosch. And, that’s what this gentleman has gone on record and said.” Investigator Rothstein says, "That’s when Noreen called me and said, 'Hey, what do you think?' I looked at the photos and it looks like it could be, you don't know.” We asked Mrs. Gosch, "Is it possible to look at these and say this is my son or this isn't my son?" Mrs. Gosch replied, "I don't know if it’s Johnny for sure. I just don't know. That’s why I have requested DNA because I think that would be the conclusive way to prove it one way or the other." There are enough features that are identical to my son’s when you compare and put the two photos together to make me want to ask for DNA.

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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:24 AM
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1. Slow news day in Iowa?
:eyes:
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:26 AM
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2. I have been wondering what happened after Any Stevenson's
appearance on MSNBC where the host said he was in contact with Guckert and would talk to him again. I haven't seen anything n DU about it since then. The thread just kind of disappeared it seemed.

It would be great if the DNA matched although it could take some time. For one thing the mother would get her child back and another that whole sex ring could be exposed - again.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:32 AM
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3. I was just shocked that they covered it
I hadn't seen anything in the local papers or news until now. I thought the story had pretty much died. Maybe that's why Noreen Gosch decided to go ahead with an interview now. This should get things stirred up again, at least for awhile.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:51 PM
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17. Dietl and Daniels - I wonder what happened to their show
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 01:52 PM by seemslikeadream
It wasn't on last Friday :shrug:




http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:15 PM
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22. I think I heard Dietl say something about it on Imus...
It was something like they might do it again in the future and he kissed MSNBC's ass a whole lot. Imus acted like he thought the show was silly.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 04:17 PM
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25. I read it was going to be aired every two weeks.
He got a lot of flake for the gosch airing.

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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:35 AM
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4. I can confirm to you with absolute certainty...
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 05:40 AM by LatePeriduct
That investigators have found mountains of proof now to show Jeff Gannon is the product of MK-ULTRA experimentation.

He, along with Brice Taylor and other children were abducted and experimented upon in the vicious MK-ULTRA programs the CFR covered up which created many strange media personalities and later Robert Novak and his cohorts to take over the mainstream news.

The results of the experiments were truly sickening, like those documented here.

"> Author: NAFF
> "1977 Senate MKULTRA Hearing
> "In June 1977, a rare cache of MKULTRA documents were discovered,
> which had escaped destruction by the CIA. The Senate Select
> Committee on Intelligence held a hearing on August 3, 1977, to
> question CIA officials on the newly-discovered documents. The
> complete 171-page record is included here, including testimony and
> dozens of MKULTRA documents on various subprojects."
> http://propagandamatrix.com/archive_mind_control.html
>
> 2003 Survey of Evidence Regarding Mind Control Experiments by Cheryl
> Welsh, 1/3/03
> http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~welsh/2003_survey.htm
>
> ACHES-MC (Advocacy Committee for Human Experiment Survivors - Mind
> Control)
> http://www.aches-mc.org/
>
> Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments
> Brief descriptions of document collections acquired as of 6/16/95.
> http://tis.eh.doe.gov/ohre/roadmap/achre
>
> Alex Constantine's Political Conspiracy Research Bin
> Includes documentation on the U.S. government's involvement in mind-
> control experimentation.
> http://alexconstantine.50megs.com/index.html
>
> Associazione Italiana, Scientifica e Giuridica, contro gli Abusi
> Mentali, Fisici, Tecnologici - Onlus
> Italian non-profit organization that addresses issues against ritual
> abuse, mind control, non-lethal-weapons, misuse of dangerous
> technologies. Site index and inner files with many quotations,
> links, and more.
> http://www.aisjca-mft.org
>
> The Black Vault Government Document Archive: Mind Control - Entire
> CIA MKULTRA Collection
> http://www.bvalphaserver.com/contentid-21.html
>
> Bombing the Mind: The Pentagon's Program for Psychopharmalogical
> Warfare by Edward Hammond
> Counterpunch, 7/2/02
> http://www.counterpunch.org/hammond0702.html
>
> Brainwash victims win cash claims by Karin Goodwin, 10/17/04
> Times Online
> "Hundreds of mentally ill patients who were subjected to barbaric
> CIA-
> funded brainwashing experiments by a Scottish doctor could be
> entitled to compensation following a landmark court ruling."
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-1506-1313808-
> 1506,00.html
> CIA mind-control trials revealed as secret inspiration behind "A
> Clockwork Orange" by James Morrison
> http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=342016
>
> CIA Use of Nazi Research
> http://www.advweb.com/kw/misc/misc/kw_cia-nazi-info-share.html
>
> CIA must disclose some operational files
> The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, 8/19/02. "A
> Washington, D.C., reporter may view operational files on mind control
>
> experiments by the Central Intelligence Agency, a federal district
> court ruled in early August."
> http://www.rcfp.org/news/2002/0819kellyv.html
>
> CIA Study: Hypnosis in Interrogation
> "This study, written by Edward F. Deshere, appeared in the CIA
> journal Studies in Intelligence in 1960. This document explores some
> of the possible applications of hypnosis during interrogations."
> http://www.parascope.com/ds/articles/hypnosisDoc.htm
>
> CIA Use of Nazi Research
> "The following are not all Nazi war criminals hired to work for the
> U.S., though several are. All of them worked with such, and/or
> worked at similar unethical experiments."
> http://www.advweb.com/kw/misc/misc/kw_cia-nazi-info-share.html
> Declassified MKULTRA Project Documents
> http://www.michael-robinett.com/declass/c000.htm
>
> Carla Emery's Website
> About hypnotism and related technologies - shatters common myths,
> explains how hypnotism can easily be used to influence and control
> http://hypnotism.org/
>
> Enough evidence for trial of CIA drugging by Bob Egelko
> San Francisco Chronicle, May 25, 2004. "'I drugged guys involved in
> about 10, 12 (instances),' former federal narcotics agent Ira
> Feldman, who worked for the CIA's Project MKULTRA, told Ritchie's
> lawyer. 'I didn't do any follow-up...You just back away and let them
> worry like this nitwit, Ritchie.'" "The CIA program, a response to
> reports of brainwashing of American prisoners during the Korean War,
> was an attempt to find chemicals or techniques that could control
> human consciousness."
> http://tinyurl.com/948gr "



Ted Gunderson and now real senior officials have been able to confirm that, Jeff Gannon is in fact Johnny Gosch and took on the secret aliases in an effort to protect not just himself but his mother.

Brice Taylor commonly known as Sue Ford, has published multiple books along with a CFR member who oversaw everything named John DeCamp.

Most of the experiments involved Bush senior and disgusting child abuse rings, drugs, and mind control which is why nobody has ever wanted to shed light on it.

One single DNA sample would then prove irrefutably that Gosch assumed the alias of Gannon. But he is afraid of them doing terrible things, that is why he does not come out and tell his mother or anyone else.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:56 AM
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5. Confirm with absolute certainty? How? You connected? n/t
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:02 AM
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6. Yes n/t
Video is out now too of the MKULTRA interviews.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:05 PM
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8. Welcome to DU LatePeriduct!
:hi:

Thanks for sharing the links.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:42 PM
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14. I'm sure you realize that the inquisitive nature of most, if not all, ....
.... of those who spend their time at DU, will likely come asking for a bit more detail ;)

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on when g/g/g/??? met Rev Moon)
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:18 AM
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7. I've often said,
after MK-ULTRA was brought to court, that if this is what they are willing to admit to, what in god's name are they doing that we still aren't hearing about?

I've read everything I could get my hands on for years on this, it is sickening. A mentally ill woman in Canada was put in a sensory deprivation tank for 3 WEEKS! It's only recommended for 3 days at the most.

Mad world.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:21 PM
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10. thank you
:hi:
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Spencer10 Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:35 PM
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12. A question...
I don't doubt MK-Ultra because I've read enough about it over the past few years to believe it. I also don't doubt Johnny Gosch was kidnapped and placed in a child sex ring. And I certainly have some major questions about JGJG. What I don't understand at all is why, if Gannon/Guckert is indeed Gosch and, as you said, needs to protect himself, why he would seek out a job right under the President's nose. That doesn't make sense to me at all. That's about as high a visibility job as you could choose. If you're afraid for your life, to the point you can't even see your own family, why would you expose yourself to television scruity via the press corps? Can you help me make sense of that?
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:39 PM
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13. 'hiding in plain sight' per Jeff Gannon (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on why We The People have stopped holding those who work for us, i.e., our government, accountable)
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Spencer10 Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:12 PM
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19. LOL!
I almost used the term, "hiding in plain sight" in my above post... but didn't know Gannon had used the term himself. Odd.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:46 PM
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15. Thanks for the scrutiny -- I find it exceptionally odd
that the idea of Guckert being Gosch would have ever come up, in the first place, were it not for the sex thing. And Guckert is so famous, by now, that if the Black Ops decided to rub him out -- it would look MIGHTY suspicious.

I'm sitting here secretly hoping that Gosch is Guckert -- because wouldn't that be the mule's butt? But, alas, my confidence in this accusation is very weak.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:29 PM
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20. mule's butt?
Wouldn't that be the elephant's ass? :shrug:

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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:34 PM
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23. These were awesome links...
I didnt even know about Brice Taylor... and Gunderson is my hero. This man is everywhere at all times trying to get this out.

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Spencer10 Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 04:06 PM
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24. Brice
If I'm not mistaken, Brice has written a book about her experiences re MK-Ultra.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:08 PM
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9. This story is not dead.
Thanks for the link.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:27 PM
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11. Hmmmm....kick!
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 01:28 PM by meganmonkey
I would like to see more people weigh in on this, particularly LatePeriduct's claim that Gannon=Gosch is fact... :wow:
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:12 PM
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21. Yes. LatePeriduct please give us some more details
on "Gannon is Gosch" and the "senior officials". Thanks!
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:48 PM
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16. let's go to our er... man in the field, M Not Lizzardman
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:00 PM
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18. Thanks for making me laugh. That's great! lol n/t
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