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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:15 PM
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Time Mag Runs Pic of Reep Plants/Fake Protesters ("Communists for Kerry")
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 02:15 PM by elehhhhna


"Time Mag publishes FAKE photo of supposed Anti-Coulter/Pro-Kerry group
by John in DC - 4/18/2005 12:25:00 PM

THIS IS A GOP FRONT GROUP POSING AS "COMMUNISTS FOR KERRY"



And had TIME magazine followed the news cycle last year, they'd have know this. FOX News got duped by the group, the group was uncovered, and now TIME republishes the photo saying that it's a real group protesting Coulter, when it's really a GOP group pretending to be "communists for Kerry" in order to make Kerry and the Dems look bad."

http://www.americablog.org/
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:16 PM
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1. Do these people ever stop?
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:17 PM
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2. boy, i'm surprised
journalism at its best!
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:34 AM
Response to Reply #2
46. I Think Homer Called It "Journamalism"
Because journamalisming is HARD WORK.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:21 PM
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3. The fellow in the front lower right really looks like a commie....
...doesn't he? Right from the Campus Coummunists of Bob Jones University! :eyes:... :applause:... :woohoo:... :rofl:... :spray:
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. Wow, I see a resemblance to Timothy McVeigh in him. Is it just me?
:shrug:

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. No, you are correct, these are the people that we should be....
...profiling at airports and border crossings.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:42 AM
Response to Reply #11
38. No shit, man! I keep saying- if the right wing is serious about
racial and religious profiling, they would do well to look at the kinds of folks responsible for almost ALL the terrorist attacks in the US in the past ten years...



http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1054406072525_2003/06/01/02n_eric_rudolph,0.jpg
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Deaniac1 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #38
54. Is that Ben Stiller in second photo???
They could be twins!:eyes:
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #10
22. Not just you.
Could be his little brother, the resemblence is so strong.

Not saying the guy is going to go around blowing up buildings, but sheesh.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:39 AM
Response to Reply #3
37. Yeah, I was wondering where his brown shirt got off to...
Maybe it's laundry day.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:21 PM
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4. also "criminals for gun control"
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 02:22 PM by unblock
and "liberating iraqi children from tyranny is co$ting too much!"


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deadite Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:11 PM
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18. You'd have thought "criminals for gun control" would have been a
pretty obvious indicator that something nefarious was afoot here...
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:21 PM
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5. The best poster is in the background
You can just barely see it:

"Criminals For Gun Control"

Freeptards.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 04:43 PM
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53. Actually, I think this one is better:
?duh

Here's the rest of the "Criminals for..." poster:
?duh

Although this one on their site is nice too:
?duh

Same picture, different caption:
?duh

:rofl:
-Make7
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:22 PM
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6. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.
Let's get our our clippers, shave our heads, put on neo-Nazi gear and carry signs "Aryans for Bush" and "Dear Leader, Exterminate the Raghead Vermin for Christ"! And show our support for Bush in every city he visits!


The sick thing is these people can say that their crap is "parody" or "humor", when they know damn well that most repuke knuckledraggers are way too stupid to notice, and will take it at face value.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #6
13. Why not? We'd finally get into his rallies! Good idea!
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carnie_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #6
50. Check out
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #50
65. Thank you! LOL
I needed the laugh! Hysterical!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:23 PM
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7. Wonder how much Coulter pays them...
for the publicity?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:24 PM
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8. Let's get them to retract
They will have to since there is hard evidence that the group is fake.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:05 AM
Response to Reply #8
49. Oh, sure...
a two inch retraction on the bottom of page 6. They'll retract alright, but no one will ever see it.
Their retraction should be on top of their home page and on the cover of the next issue, but there's as much chance of that happening as there is of bush withdrawing troops from Iraq. It ain't never 'gonna happen.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:32 PM
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9. I thought the URL was bogus, but it worked.
Here it is: http://communistsforkerry.com/

Very professionally made, and must have some GOP $$$$ behind it. Being a patron of the Onion and Whitehouse.org, I can't really slam this one. But the latter two are clearly satire, while this one is partisan sleaze of the lowest sort. It DEMANDS to have a http://nazisandkkkersforbush.org website, for balance. (And won't those Freeper Morans SCREAM!!!).

pnorman
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. my letter to time magazine
Once upon a time, TIME magazine was considered a news magazine.
Now your cover "girl" Ann Coulter shows your depth of understanding
of reality once and for all. Conferring honors on a hate and lie monger
like this person is nothing but bizarre.
I wonder just how much of the article is close to accurate, I know
for a fact that one of the photos you used for your cover story is a phony made up by a conservative hate group.
It is a photo of some idiot holding up an anti-coulter sign. Behind that one is another saying "criminals for gun control" come on, guys, check your sources. Isn't that a tenet of journalism?
And you can count on me to not subscribe to your rag any time soon.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. I'm cancelling
TIME. This is the last straw. Ann Coulter staring at me in my house? No. Directly into the trash. Along with my subscription.
But I will let them know why.
Fake photos.
Have they no standards at all?
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pazarus Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:17 AM
Response to Reply #12
42. i wrote a little letter too
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 05:18 AM by pazarus
Time magazine -
I was pretty disgusted to see you use one of your images of a group and a poster 'protesting' Ann Coulter in your most recent edition. The poster claims to be from CommunistsForKerry.com, which should have been your first clue it was a fake. I had seen the photo before, back when it had been run by FOX News as real and then debunked for the fake protest it was. The group in the photo was the "protest warriors", as you can see on the other fake signs.

To run it on the premise that it was an anti-Coulter or pro-Kerry rally is really a stupid mistake. Anyone who takes a few minutes to read the signs in the photo or who has been reasonably aware of the news over the last year (I don't work at an international news magazine and I remember this) would have--SHOULD have--known, or been clever enough to deduce from the ample evidence, that this was a fake protest made for the purpose of furthering Coulter's and conservative causes.

I find it strange that none of the clues or the previous exploration of the photo stopped it from making it past your editing room. Maybe in the future try keeping a small note next to each photograph that says what the photograph's context was, because sometimes context is important for news reports. I hope you take the chance in your next issue to correct the mistake. I'll be watching.

-pazarus


my letter's a bit snarky but it was a stupid mistake, although i doubt intentional. i just started realizing it feels good to fire off a letter or two. i hope everyone here does it every now and then. it only takes a few minutes to put down some thoughts and check for spelling, and most places have to read them if they're not full of swears.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:46 PM
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14. Will the MSM respond to Times gaffe like they did to 60 Minutes?
punked!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #14
63. Don't hold your breath. nt
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:54 PM
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15. The sign next to the Coulter one is a protestwarrior.com one?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #15
25. Protest warrior... armchair soldiers and wannabe fascists
Patetic losers. Plain and simple. I have delt with many of them on the KU campus. They are a sad group.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:43 AM
Response to Reply #25
39. Hard to think of stuff to do on campus
when you can't get a date.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:08 PM
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17. Homeland Security needs to round up this group and EVERYONE...
Tied to them, and send them to Gitmo for hating America so much.

Bye Bye America hating GOP!
:woohoo:

Well, it was a nice thought anyway.
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Still_Loves_John Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:16 PM
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19. How did they caption it?
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 03:19 PM by Still_Loves_John
I mean, just because they ran the picture doesn't mean they didn't understand it was a satire thing. The New Yorker printed pictures of Billionaires for Bush, but that doesn't mean they didnt understand that it was an anti-bush group. Those signs aren't exactly subtle, and itdd bea pretty big mistake on TIME's part to get it wrong.

Whoops, never mind. I'm an idiot and didn't read it. Sorry, I've just read way to many knee jerk posts today and this was the thread I exploded in. I was totally wrong. Still, I'm pretty sure this isn't part of some nefarious plot or anything. I'm sure some phot editor was looking through stock photos and saw this one with a big x through Ann Coulter and didn't bother to look closer. Stupid, stupid, unprofessional mistake, but nothing more.
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indy_azcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:18 PM
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20. They at least changed the on-line caption
Wonder what the print version sez...?:shrug:

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101050425/gallery/8.html

<COPY>
Idol
Pro-G.O.P protesters at the Republican Convention in New York City last year

Correction: The original caption incorrectly stated that these protesters were blasting Coulter
<END>
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:18 PM
Response to Original message
21. Somebody tell Kurtz
Betcha he'll get right on it. Not.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:22 PM
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23. If that is the case, Time magazine should reprint the photo
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 03:24 PM by cat_girl25
with the correct and truthful caption.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:24 PM
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24. 2 things. One, that guy in front looks like he would be a good recruit
for the military, especially if he is so pro-war.

Second, wouldn't these people be more at home in something like "Fascists For Bush"?


Why is it that every RW attempt at humor is either just pathetic and sad or terribly unfunny?
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:32 PM
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26. The communists were for Kerry?
Coulda fooled me.:rofl:

Time magazine: Punk'd and too stupid to know.

Priceless. Reminds me of a little war somewhere...hmmm....
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:41 PM
Response to Original message
27. Time has turned into
glossy outhouse shitpaper...........
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. It's like People, but even MORE boring and inane.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #27
58. Time has been a rightwing rag from the first day it was printed.
This wasn't an "oversight" or "sloppiness."
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Pockets Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 04:00 PM
Response to Original message
29. just noticed
another website on the sign in back, is http://www.protestwarrior.com/. It's not a satire but an anti-left site.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 04:06 PM
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30. This is Protest Warriors
I remember passing by them on 34th St. during the RNC Sunday protest. There were maybe 12 of them, with their highly produced signage. Everyone knew they were fake, including the cops. A good friend of mine knows the founder of this group. If americablog would like more info I'm happy to put him in touch.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #30
56. I must have been next to you!
My daughter and I ran into them around there too. They entered the protest and were eventually escorted out. A few tense moments but mostly people ignored their stupidity.

Billionaires for Bush vs these guys: No contest. The Billionaires are brilliant and the Protest Warriors are just lame. Their creativity rates a .1 on a scale of 1-10.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 04:09 PM
Response to Original message
31. correction, Fox News was not duped
they intentionally reported with disinformation.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:23 AM
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32. "Kerry Haters For Kerry"
Time fell for it, and someone is surprised? You don't understand Time magazine, then.

In any case, much better than this low-brow GOP fluff is a web site produced by progressives who, like a lot of us, had to hold their noses to vote for Kerry's pro-war, pro-corporate platform.

Their final post was delicious:

"Despite a massive outpouring of support from those who loathe him, John Kerry has lost. The entire KH4K community is filled with a combination of dread and relief -- in other words, roughly what we would have felt if he'd won. But maybe in different proportions."

http://www.kerryhatersforkerry.com
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UCSBLiberalCat53 Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:47 AM
Response to Original message
33. watch the retraction
done in small font on page 16 or whatever where no one will notice.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:11 AM
Response to Original message
34. Cancel and demand a refund for remaining issues left on the subscription
as I will.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:16 AM
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35. So much for Time...went to the dogs - literally!...n/t
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WearyOne Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:27 AM
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36. either Time publishes a huge retraction or their integrity busted
for all Time.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 04:02 AM
Response to Original message
40. But will they name Hannity Coach of the Year?
I like that, yep, from now on I dub thee Coach Hannity.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:12 AM
Response to Reply #40
41. Exactly, When Bush was man of the year, Time ran-out. nt
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:08 AM
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43. Communists for Kerry....
What an interesting ring out there you come to find.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:10 AM
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44. "Liberal media," my ass.
You'd think the world's biggest newsmagazine could perform some, I don't know, RESEARCH.

No wonder the MSM fears the blogosphere. They know they're being unmasked.
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pilgrimm Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:18 AM
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45. All politics aside...
these people aren't half as entertaining as Billionaires for Bush. Freep-tards just ain't got no soul.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:53 AM
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47. so Nixonian I feel nostalgia n/t
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #47
59. You're absolutely right: it is an old Nixon tactic.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:58 AM
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48. They gotta be kidding me. That has to be the most clean-cut
bunch of Communists EVER!

This is very pathetic. The signs are obviously (crudely) satirical. I've seen the protestwarrior people out at antiwar rallies and I've never seen anyone fooled by them. WTF is the matter with Time?

Wait, don't answer that question...

The Plaid Adder
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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:58 AM
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51. If they *truly* regret the error, they should
turn the retraction into the first paragraph of a cover story on "fake news" including the payola from the administration, and fake news clips manufactured by them.

Imagine a good hard look into 'embedded'(in-bed-ed) journalism.

It could sell a lot of magazines.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:48 AM
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52. Here's the WhoIs info for communistsforkerry.com
https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/whois.asp?se=%2B&domain=COMMUNISTSFORKERRY%2Ecom
You'll have to enter a verification code (which is displayed on the page) to see it.

It looks like it's owned by a guy named Tim Sanders in White Plains NY. But that could easily be a pseudonym. Does anyone know if it's possible to do some kind of reverse whois to find any other domains this guy owns?
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Paul Dlugokencky Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #52
55. WhoIs... so what?
One could google around and find more about the guy, but so what? We already know they're a fake group.

-( No pseudonym here )-



http://www.cafepress.com/kickindemocrats
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #55
57. Because it might be interesting to find out who is behind that site.
It might be some rightwing group that could be embarrassed by the exposure.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:02 PM
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60. Those are protest warriors ... idiots at Time don't know that
Those are pathetic bush voters posing ..
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:33 AM
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61. Even Freepers KNOW this is a protest warrior tactic
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1202890/posts

To: gunnygail
Check out the Communist for Kerry website, guess what they are on our side. Read everything they have, you will be ROFLYAO



15 posted on 08/30/2004 5:31:32 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.)
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To: gunnygail; Maria S
Go and check out the website communistsforkerry.com (NO WWW!). It's a riot! I laughed so hard yesterday my wife thought I had lost my mind.

The lovely young lady is on our side, folks. It's a spoof site.



16 posted on 08/30/2004 5:31:34 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: U S Army EOD
My favorite is what happens when you click on "contact secret police".

One of the main differences between our side and theirs is we have much more fun than they do!

We also have MUCH better looking women!



17 posted on 08/30/2004 5:33:21 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN

is that bellygirl with a new do?



20 posted on 08/30/2004 5:34:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: gunnygail; Maria S; Diogenesis
She's with protest warriors and is using 'satire'....to annoy the wackos in NYC.



21 posted on 08/30/2004 5:34:41 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (I trust NOBODY BUT BUSH! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: gunnygail
i was actually laughing at that pic, until i read your comment.....i thought at first that you didnt "get it"...(& how unusual is that, right??)
then i looked again....I guess i cant believe these people are that stooooopid! i mean, wouldnt that poster fit right in at a protestwarrior rally? what could be more transparent?



here's the link to

http://communistsforkerry.com/GPU/viewtopic.php?t=122
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 04:49 PM
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62. Double duh!!!!!
I can't wait for the editorial correction in next week's edition.

What's that * said about "Fool me once....????"

DUH!

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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 05:01 PM
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64. And they wonder why we call them "WHORES!"
There are no true, respectable, accountable, creditable reporters on television (bare few exceptions), nor magazines.

No. The real, respectable, accountable, creditable documentation researchers, a.k.a. "reporters of truthful news," are right out here.

Won't ever buy, nor read Time again... less they take out a huge front page ad admitting they were wrong. But alas, that would be to dignified to their magazine, and their advertisers wouldn't like it.

MY SHIT LIST just got a little LONGER today!

:hi: times (bye-bye)!
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