Look what George Will said on George Steph. show

[slater71]

The panel was talking about the stock market falling about 500 points this week. George Will said that it`s nothing new and that during the period from 1965 to 1982 the stock market was flat for 17 years It opened at 874.something in 1962 and closed at 875.10 in 1982. That said, Cokie Roberts says to my surprise, that " That is the exact reason why social security should not have private accounts." George Will was speechless. He didn`t say a thing. LMAO.

[NMDemDist2]

1. did you hear the Catholic college student state that condoms don't

protect you from AIDS???? and that in Africa we need to teach abstinence only!!! :wtf:

[TeeYiYi]

3. I think he compared it to . . .

. . . giving food to a homeless person, saying it doesn't solve the problem. :crazy:

TYY

[fasttense]

5. Oh my God, he is against feeding the poor? What a true Christian

he is. Has he read what Jesus said? Or does he use Christianity as an excuse for greed and selfishness. Sounds like Pharisee, he would have fit right in with the people who killed Jesus.

[TahitiNut]

11. Well, he's obviously rushing over to walk a mile in their shoes.

:sarcasm:
:eyes: :eyes:

[ninkasi]

33. Oh, he'd do it, too

Except that some of them can't afford shoes.

[TahitiNut]

34. Well, rather than give them shoes (so they walk for a day) ...

... the conservatives would have them shine their shoes. :silly:

[chicagiana]

30. Take it easy on George Will ...

George Will is definitely an adversary. But he is an honest and gentlemanly adversary. He's the type you could have a friendly fencing match with. He's a traditional conservative.

This new breed like the Limbaughs, the Hannities and the Novaks, would skewer you the second you turned your back. They are all out liars. They trash liberalism while simultaneously disguising their heartless, mean-spirited agenda in liberal rhetoric. That is anethema to George Will.

Yes, private accounts would cause MAJOR headaches when the market went through large fluctuations. Futhermore, you would end up with a situation where government officials would be pressured to artificially inflate the market to keep an appearance of fiscal security in the markets.

The short sellers are just salivating!!!!

[DELUSIONAL]

12. following that logic -- no food = starve to death = problem solved?

Now the problem is how to hide the dead bodies -- sort of a replay of the death camps where prisoners were starved to death?

The next logical step for the monsters in power would be to execute all homeless people, because they will starve to death anyway. Preempt starvation by execution?

The bushie gang seems to want to divert all the money that should be going to the less fortunate to right wing church groups - who will dole out money based on the "faith" of the needy. Thus the homeless being help are only the ones most like the wing ding religious right. And if god loves the wing ding religious right -- (above all others) then why are some of their believers homeless? Or, perhaps, once the homeless see the "light" and convert to the wing ding nut religion -- then suddenly their god will give them a home and a job?

Not giving welfare to the poor is an old religious right wing theory -- years ago our State Senator sent legislative newsletter with "proof" that with holding welfare is actually more helpful than giving welfare. Apparently these "righteous" wing nuts strip the Beatitudes from the Bible.

Perhaps the real democrats should be quoting the Beatitudes?

[DELUSIONAL]

15. Beatitudes

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called sons of God.

Blessed are they that have been persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are ye when shall reproach you, and persecute you, and say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatitudes

[enid602]

22. Beatitudes

Thank you for reminding us of these writings. As I read them, it strikes me how at odds they are with the thinking of our current theocracy.

[MattBaggins]

18. Starve to Death = Problem solved

Malthusian thought is alive and well

[TacticalPeek]

23. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish

and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

[Warpy]

8. The operative words are "college student"

I mean, honestly, what the fuck does anybody under the age of 22 know? Oh, I remember being all wise and all knowing at that age, but reality has a way of kicking you in the teeth and telling you how LITTLE you know once you're out of school.

[Hamlette]

17. the issue with kids being so conservative is that they used to be

more openminded. That is what college is all about. I recognize that kids don't know all that much but those college kids creeped me out. My generation questioned authority ("never trust anyone over 30") now the kids are more conservative than their parents. If this is representative of our country, we're screwed.

This religious thing has gotten out of hand. When are the real Christians (the ones who follow the teachings of Christ, remember, charity, tolerance, compassion?) going to tell these Opus Dei/right wing extremists to give back their religion?

Seems the younger generation already drank the kool aid.

[chicagiana]

31. HEDONISTIC, material culture ...

The media IS changing Americans. And that corporate media is telling kids that their are a few winners out there, and everyone else is a BIG loser.

It is very natural for people to identify with "winners". So much so they delude themselves into believing that THEY must and WILL become part of that class just for thinking that way. Therefore, they must help preserve a non-egalitarian culture for the day when they too will be millionaires.

MTV IS bad for America. But it has nothing to do with sex or stupid jackass pranks. It has to do with promoting a narcissitic world view. By far, it isn't limited to MTV. Thats just the nature of what sells. Dreams and illusions, those sell.

Exactly where is that corny Brady Bunch where you need it. Moral prudenism used to go side by side with a sense of social responsibility. Now all that has gone out the window. It's all Jesus the idol without Jesus the word.

[NMDemDist2]

14. LOL guess what kids? the student was female

funny how gender based our language is huh?

[jean]

27. did the kid go to a Catholic college - or was he/she a Catholic? I'd

love to know what Catholic college and universities are pushing regarding sexuality as it relates to the certainty of scientific knowledge.

[chicagiana]

32. Catholicism is actually pretty liberal at that level ...

Notre Dame is often skewered by the conservative catholic community for being VERY open about so many topics. Altogether, I'd have to say that the catholic community is WAY more liberal than baptists.

[0007]

2. Take a bow, Dumb & Dumber.......n/t

[fasttense]

4. Cokie Roberts said something ageist the b*shites?

I can't believe it. She is a DINO and likes to pretend she is liberal. For her to be against private accounts and actually criticize the repugs is amazing.

[K8-EEE]

6. I'M SHOCKED TOO!!!

Cokie was such a BushWhore during the election -- "Nation Security Is His Issue!" type shit, I got so sick of her...

[kenny blankenship]

9. She must have been still drunk from last night

and didn't realize where she was.

[Melynn]

35. Even Kookie Roberts realizes that Bush's "Social Security Reform" is bad

and that's saying a lot.

[saltpoint]

7. I'm not surprised that Will was pontificating, but I'm shocked --

-- that Cokie Roberts nailed him on SS.

Whoa.

[amber dog democrat]

24. My guess is the Cokie is NO ONE's friend.

she's sort of a spitting cobra. She goes after Dems and even moderate liberals but there is no such thing as good faith where she is concerned.

But glad she nailed that bastard. This is too funny.

[saltpoint]

25. Your hunch on Cokie sounds about right to me.

There's an "I work from home" feel to her, and to her "insightful" reports on NPR.

But Will needed to be punched in the belly and her fist's as good as anybody's, I guess.

Helen Thomas should replace Cokie. Say, by tomorrow morning!?!

[amber dog democrat]

26. How about yesterday?

The only " good thing " about her is that mildly sadistic pleasure she seems to get from saying things are not ALL well on the Repug side of the aisle, issue, agency, constituancy, judiciary, controversy.... ad nausium...either.

She's not insightful; just snide. I tune her out when she smirks.

[saltpoint]

28. Yesterday? You bet. Yesterday works for me.

[BringEmOn]

10. She probably lost her @$$ in the stock market last week.

Maybe that's all that can wake them up.

[liberalhistorian]

13. Will is also the idiot who said a couple of years

ago that unemployment benefits shouldn't be extended because it would provide "a disincentive to the non-working to find a job." Like that privileged repuke fuckwit has had to actually look for a job anytime during the past thirty years or so! I couldn't believe it when I first read the quote in an interview, but then again, this is a "compassionate conservative" we're talking about here.

[msongs]

16. let's use their WORDS in our commercials......exact quotes BUT - >

gues we cannot use them saying it. but the dialog sounds made for commercials...........

Msongs
www.msongs.com/liberaltshirts.htm

[moondust]

19. Will also once said

you can't go around invading countries without firm evidence that they must be invaded, that the fallout from invading Iraq without such evidence would likely take generations to repair.

The world is full of surprises!

[Eloriel]

20. Right. Cause what if you're the one reitirng next month not last? n/t

[Inland]

21. Will caught between two Bushite story lines

"Everything is better than it was under other governments"

and

"Investing the stock market fixes everything."

Will forgot to blame last week on an extraordinary event, like 9/11 or John Kerry's candidacy.

[laura888]

29. Excellent!

Put a smile on my face!