3,700 labs worldwide are mistakenly shipped lethal flu virus - MIHOP?

[lonestarnot]

What the hell is going on here???

Flu alert as killer strain is sent to labs by mistake 14 April 2005 --Public health agencies around the world have been put on alert for an outbreak of lethal influenza after samples of the deadly virus were sent out 'mistakenly' in testing kits. http://www.legitgov.org/flu_oddities.html

Killer flu 'unwisely' shipped to labs 14 April 2005 --Scientists are frantically trying to locate and destroy a deadly strain of flu "unwisely" shipped to 3,700 laboratories worldwide. The Washington Post said the problem arose when Meridian Bioscience Inc. of Cincinnati sent a panel of H2N2 virus samples to about 3,700 laboratories, to be tested as part of routine quality-control certification conducted by the College of American Pathologists. <'Unwisely.' Does that imply an element of 'decision-making,' in the decision to ship the flu pandemic to the labs?> http://www.legitgov.org/flu_oddities.html

and

Indonesia detects bird flu virus in pigs 11 April 2005 --The Compas newspaper in Indonesia on April 10 reported that the country has detected the bird flu virus in pigs. This is a new development concerning bird flu in Indonesia as the avian virus has traditionally been found only in poultry.

[FloridaPat]

1. Some mistake huh? Loose track of a killer virus. Smart. Real smart

[lonestarnot]

2. Fookin' freaks! How in the hell did this happen! I want to know NOW!

[Must_B_Free]

3. Just another "Coincidence"

no politically useful tool to see here, folks. Now move along and pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

[solinvictus]

4. Two words if it gets to pandemic proportions:

martial law, with two more words: emergency powers. Ponder the implications.

[doublethink]

7. Yea Quarantine Powers .......

Bush allready broke these powers out April 2nd. Crazy shit.

[lonestarnot]

8. This may the incident? The one that has been eating at me as to what

they are up to...you point out the ER powers and martial law...implications are to scary to ponder long, but we must....Think DU going to be shut down while we are all sequestered to home?

[unhappycamper]

5. you might want to let them know what you think about this

Worldwide Headquarters
Meridian Bioscience, Inc.
3471 River Hills Drive
Cincinnati, OH 45244
Driving Directions
General Tel: [phone]
Inside Sales: 888-763-6769
Customer Service: 800.543.1980
Technical Support: 800.343.3858


Fax Numbers
General: 513.271.3762
Inside Sales: 513.272.5421
Customer Service: 513.271.0124
Technical Support: 513.272.5432

The management team & Board of Directors:

http://www.meridianbioscience.com/aboutus/aboutus_main....

[lonestarnot]

6. Oh yes going to let them know!

And thanks for the info!

[Oilwellian]

10. Looks like the CEO of Meridian has been busy....

selling his shares of stock since last month:

8-Feb-05 10,000 VIVO Sale at $17.7046 per share.
(Proceeds of $177,046)
7-Feb-05 16,500 VIVO Sale at $17.7376 per share.
(Proceeds of $292,670)
4-Feb-05 15,500 VIVO Sale at $17.56 - $17.5965 per share.
(Proceeds of about $272,000)
3-Feb-05 4,000 VIVO Sale at $17.56 per share.
(Proceeds of $70,240)
2-Feb-05 100,000 VIVO Planned Sale
(Estimated proceeds of $1,745,000)
2-Feb-05 14,000 VIVO Sale at $17.56 per share.
(Proceeds of $245,839)
http://biz.yahoo.com/t/86/833.html
http://investor.meridianbioscience.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=117257&p=irol-govmanage

[NYC]

20. That is very interesting.

According to The New York Times, this 1957 virus was shipped out over a period of 6 months.

...The H2N2 virus was first noticed by the Canadian Public Health Agency on March 26 but was sent out as long ago as last September, the CDC said...

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/news/news-health-flu.html

[Wilms]

9. Story Links

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=629165

http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnews&id=97686

[lonestarnot]

12. What about the poor ass postal workers? Are they being exposed?

story links do not say HOW it was shipped.

[smurfygirl]

15. heard they went through fed ex and DLS

Anyway, all of this seems really fishy.

And by the way these samples were sent to a lot of hospitals and the lab techs had no idea they were even handling them.

[Nothing Without Hope]

11. Oh. My. God. Doesn't take much of a tinfoilhat to be afraid of THIS!

I think the favorite interpretation of the RW "Rapture" freaks is that 1/3 of the world's population will die before the 2nd Coming. Maybe this is a way to accoomplish that?

Recommended. We need to find out what really happened with this. Where did this contaminating dangerous virus strain come from, how did it get into all these kits? And look how we found out about it (from the link in the OP):

"It's enough to make you sick isn't it? Some $40 billion spent on 'Homeland Security' in 2004 and another $50 billion going into the same sinkhole in 2005, with billions of those dollars specifically targeting 'bio terror,' and a mistake (or stupid decision) by a biological lab made last fall had a deadly flu virus capable of creating a global pandemic getting mailed out to several thousand unsuspecting testing labs... And how was this accidental terror 'device' detected? Not by the alert folks at Tom Ridge's or Mike Chertoff's Homeland Security Department, but by an alert technician working for the 'socialist health care system' in Manitoba, Canada, who tested the virus in the kit and determined that it was the same strain of flu virus that caused a worldwide flu pandemic in 1957 and who immediately alerted the World Health Organization and the U.S. Center for Disease Control."

[lonestarnot]

13. Holy Shit! This man deserves a bonus if he would only live to spend it!

[Oilwellian]

14. We need to investigate...

the company (Meridian) and those who work for it. As I posted above, the CEO began selling his company shares last month.

[smurfygirl]

16. I listened to this guy on the radio

seems he has really been on to this story and says there are several company's involved. Here is his site.

http://www.nomorefakenews.com/

[lonestarnot]

21. Read the stuff on the website and he doesn't seem to think it's 'a story'

[smurfygirl]

22. well tonight on the radio he had alot more to say and seemed concerned

so maybe he will post some more tommorow. Anyway, he did know some things that hadn't been posted anywhere or really talked about by the MSM. I think something is really strange about all of this. And he makes a good point by asking why not another year, why 57, almost seems intentional. now that we know someone has been selling stock this story seems to be getting even deeper.

[lonestarnot]

40. practice dry run for the Avian release?

[Nothing Without Hope]

28. Of course it's a story, a MAJOR story. This virus killed over 4 MILLION!!

Check out the Guardian Unlimited (UK) article I link to downthread here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3477789&mesg_id=3478094

[lonestarnot]

17. Yes something fishy there for sure...selling ahead of this 'mishap' sound

like an inside for profit 'mishap'. I still am very curious to know how the hell it was shipped. UPS, United Parcel, Air freight, truck, how did the samples get to their destination, because it many touch samples then many could already be exposed that are under age 36, especially if the postal service handled it. I've seen medical samples that are shipped by postal service and they break looooose often.

[smurfygirl]

19. they were shipped through Fed ex and DHL

Read the site I posted above. Scroll down you will come to the first story. It is about this.

[Swamp Rat]

18. Don't you all feel much safer now that Michael Chertoff is in charge of

Homeland Security? :scared:

[lonestarnot]

23. Oh sure.

[zann725]

24. Yep...MIHOP all over it. Since FEMA is now under Homeland Security

there's plenty of room for financial profit for the powers-that-be from Disaster...as last year's multiple Hurricanes in Jeb-territory proved.

Plus the only way to get their Approval Ratings back up is through national disaster/fear.

[countryjake]

25. The bird flu is much more frightening to me!

Mainly, because it's now found in lots of places in the birds of South Asia & it has not only transferred to pigs, but other mammals as well. It went from bird to tiger in a zoo, & then from that tiger to another tiger. Just imagine if by the time it hits our shores, it's mutated into a "cat flu"!

They claim that one of the reasons it was able to jump to humans over there was because they view their chickens as pets & they handle them & treat them as such & most of those 51 human deaths have been traced to that sort of contact, but some of the unexplained sources are that it may have been contained & passed from the meat of infected birds. And now it's in pigs! Sure hope they're working hard figuring that one out!

Now, after hearing about the incompetence of the handling of these "killer flu kits", it really makes me wonder if we'd even be capable of dealing with a virus strain that mutates so quickly & is as strong as that bird flu seems to be.

[Avalux]

33. Check this out in the Science forum -

Explaining Avian Flu and Possible Pandemic

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=228x5742

:hi:

[Goodfella12]

26. what a mistake huh?

[Nothing Without Hope]

27. EXCELLENT GUARDIAN UNLIMITED ARTICLE - makes the story clearer

these vials of pandemic viruses were shipped out LAST OCTOBER and just happened to be discovered by a complete fluke by a young technician in Canada. It was detected because of cross-contamination of samples, which certainly indicates that this person could easily have contaminated himself if his sterile technique was even a bit more sloppy.

Here's a Guardian Unlimited (U.K) article with an unusually clear and complete description of what happened:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,11381,1459207,00.html

Scientists hunt thousands of vials of deadly flu virus sent across world

Strain not seen since 1957 could pose danger to laboratory staff
Sarah Boseley, Luke Harding and Suzanne Goldenberg
Thursday April 14, 2005

(snip)

Yesterday, it emerged that the potentially deadly distribution was discovered only through a combination of luck and human error at a laboratory in Vancouver, Canada. The original mistake was made in October last year in Northfield, Illinois, a suburb of Chicago, home to the headquarters of the College of American Pathologists.

The college sends out standardised flu testing kits to labs around the world, each containing vials of different strains of flu virus to enable technicians to ensure that their own testing equipment and reagents are working properly. This time included with the modern strains of flu virus was the killer Asian flu known as H2N2.

(snip)

John Oxford, a professor of virology at the Queen Mary School of Medicine in London, said this could pose a problem to the labs that received the testing kits: "You tend to give this kit to the youngest, most unqualified person because it is all very simple," he said. "That young person is the most susceptible. Anyone younger than 36 or 37 would have no immunity."

(snip)

[Cooley Hurd]

31. That's the most frightening part of this...

No one who was handling this test kit knew what they were handling for 7 months! I'll be very surprised if this doesn't turn into a pandemic...:scared:

[lonestarnot]

37. This story appears to indicate that it went out in the regular 'post'

meaning the friendly mail man or not so friendly depending upon his stupidvisor.

[Last Lemming]

29. In case anyone else is interested in

researching this--
Tamiflu, the drug, was cited as a "treatment"
They've been looking for a reason to use this drug for a long time
If anyone investigated stock sale it would interesting to take a peek at Roche Labs stock prices over these last few months--though the company is big enough to hide a certain amount of insider trading

this is golden

[B Calm]

30. Another terrorist attack. How many has that been since 9-11?

Bush still hasn't caught the right-wing anthrax terrorist..

[screembloodymurder]

32. Who really made the 'mistake' with the test kits?

And who owns that company? Why isn't Homeland Security looking into this as possible terrorism? If they aren't concerned, is it because they were told to stand down? Our Government is arresting teenagers for the t-shirts they wear, but they ignore a potential global catastrophe. BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! Even this administration isn't that incompetent.

[Avalux]

35. This may be a MIHOP

Good lord I hope not. I just posted this in another thread:

I have my tinfoil firmly in place - consider this.

A lab erroneously sends out an Influenza A virus (H2N2) that hasn't circulated in the population for a very long time. Anyone under the age of 37 or 38 has absolutely no antibodies against it. This virus was a killer.

Flip to the current worry over the avian flu virus, which is also a form of Influenza A (H5N1). For this virus to become a pandemic, it must have the ability to spread from human to human - it doesn't so far. It is also a killer.

If H5N1 hooks up with H2N2 in a host and recombines to form a new virus - then it will have a high mortality rate and spread from human to human with little antibody resisitance. Pandemic.

I'm sitting here starting to believe the vials of H2N2 were sent out purposefully - knowing the mechanism for an avian flu pandemic, this is all starting to terrify me.

[lonestarnot]

36. See previous posts on this thread

[Avalux]

34. H2N2 found in chickens in PA in 2004 - anyone remember this?

Not sure if it means anything, but where did this H2N2 come from??

The discovery of the H2N2 virus in Pennsylvania has prompted officials there to reassure the public and international trading partners. Following the Delaware outbreak, some countries, including Korea, Japan, and China, banned poultry imports from the United States.

“This is not the strain currently in Asia or Delaware,” Pennsylvania Agriculture Secretary Dennis C. Wolff said in the press release. “We believe this indicates no threat to human health and a low threat to the poultry industry.”

But many researchers are not so sure. They fear that the current H2N2 Pennsylvania strain may be similar enough to the 1957 pandemic strain to cross over to humans or that it might easily mutate to a form that can.

“I do not know how could conclude that this strain poses no threat to humans,” says Ron A.M. Fouchier of the National Influenza Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. “I would be surprised if they had any real evidence that this virus is not dangerous to humans.”

http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/2004/02/20/avian_flu.php

[newportdadde]

38. Insider selloffs....interesting.

Now the question would be how many of those sales if any are planned and who is short the stock right now or who went short within the last couple of months.

http://www.schaeffersresearch.com/streetools/stock_quotes.aspx?ticker_symbol=vivo


Looks like a lot of puts yesterday compare to normal.

http://www.schaeffersresearch.com/streetools/indicators/equity_volpcratio.aspx

[lonestarnot]

39. Posts very interesting...keep digging...Very busy at work today or I would

help.

[Nothing Without Hope]

41. I JUST POSTED AN UPDATE ON THIS STORY IN A NEW GD THREAD

HERE:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3479258
Title: "Pandemic flu virus "accidentally" shipped worldwide - HOW AND WHY???"

I cited this thread and two others (that had gone pretty much nowhere). This current thread is still the best place for info on the possible insider trading by the Meridian officers and I said that in the new post.

The new post has excerpts from FOUR stories updating the pandemic flu virus shipment story, including the Guardian UK story I posted as a reply to this thread. This will be huge today - even Fox News is covering how Rep. Markey (D-MA) has written a letter to Chertoff about it (http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/markey_flu.pdf).