The Guy James Show REJECTS the "we broke it we have to fix it" line

[BeachBuckeye]

Here is where I break with other "Progressive" show hosts. I'm a Liberal and damned proud of it and don't hide behind the Progressive tag.

I absolutely reject the "we broke it we have to fix it" crap. We NEVER should have been in there in the first place and no matter
WHAT has happened we don't owe them even one more American life to fix a damned thing.

This whole thing was a mistake and every single day we stay there we compound that mistake.

If staying and fixing it is the Party line then SCREW the Party line. I've been a Yellow Dog Democrat all of my life and will remain so but I will NOT tow the Party line when it is so terribly wrong.

To Hell with George Bush and the Democrats who helped him in this misguided adventure that has cost us over 1500 of our precious sons and daughters. And for WHAT??

"We broke it we have to fix it" my ass!!

Guy

[Individualist]

1. I wholeheartedly agree with you

:applause:

As I said in the other thread, the PNACers have no intention of "fixing" Iraq - never had, never will.

[B Calm]

2. I agree with you Guy!

This was a dysfunctional war from day one, and staying there any longer just adds to the mistake.

[Liberal_Dog]

3. Bravo!!

Very well said, Guy.

[LoZoccolo]

4. Wow.

I absolutely reject the "we broke it we have to fix it" crap. We NEVER should have been in there in the first place and no matter WHAT has happened we don't owe them even one more American life to fix a damned thing.

Nice guy, you.

[DELUSIONAL]

5. The only way we can "fix it" is to pull out of Iraq

and let them figure out how to bring peace to their own country.


Staying any long will turn Baghdad into another Fallujah.

Or perhaps "fix it" means turning all of Iraq in to Fallujah??

[B Calm]

6. On our local Indiana news tonight is an (Indiana) business man

captured in Iraq and pleading for his life, When will this ever end?

[BuyingThyme]

7. The only leaders who buy in to that crap are the Democratic leaders.

The regime uses broke it / fix it to get the cash, not to repair the damage. They ain't fixin' shit.

[Nite Owl]

8. Yeah, Guy

Iraq isn't going to get any fixing unless we leave. We should just say sorry, give them a check and let them fix their own country without our interference. Bring the troops home and take care of them. The Iraqi's should be recognized as intelligent people who are capable of taking care of themselves which we have no intention of doing. All this administration wants to do is keep a foothold in area and keep the business contracts for their corporate buddies.

[Doctor Panacea]

9. Progressive?

Being a progressive has NOTHING to do with a commitment to "stay and fix it".

Let's just get out and let them fix their own country. They do not need a check from us, either.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Actually they do

it is called reparations... international law 101

[underseasurveyor]

10. You know it, agreed.

We broke it alright:-( And in a perfect world, I think that it should be different countries/peoples, other than the "Americans' that intentionally destroyed it in the first place, that go in to help monitor and fix Iraq. And give that giggling murderer and every single one of his crawly minions the f'ing bill and make them f'ing pay for it all too, GD :grr: And their sorry asses would be rotting in a 6 by 9 cell for the rest of their natural lives.

But? It's not a perfect world :sigh:

[Swamp Rat]

11. Kick ass Bernie Ward! n/t

[Judi Lynn]

12. Outta there kick! Surely agree. We need to get clean, nationally. Now.

[KG]

13. really,who cares what the 'we broke it we have to fix it' crowd thinks?

they act like what the iraqis want for their country doent even matter. let the iraqi people themselves decide this. pretty sure they would collectively ask the occupiers to leave. what the iraqis think is what counts.

i'd like to know how many soldiers the pro-occupation 'progressives' think should die protecting the 'haliburtion janitorial service'. i dont want my nephew to catch a bullet while baby sitting the carpet-baggers.

also like to know how much more money should be shoveled to the bottomless gaping maw of the MIC companies by continuing this clusterfuck. should the US ruin continue it economy to rack up massive deficts in order to enrich bechtel and B&R?


'we broke it we have to fix it' position is just ignorant beyond belief.

[Pepperbelly]

15. but If we just leave ...

it will go a long way toward "fixing" it.

Send them a check for damages and get the hell out.

[Mr. Flibble]

16. We're there now, we lack a functioning time machine.

So, yeah, we HAVE to fix it. Everybody's talk of "we never should have gone" is pointless at this point because we stupidly went and wrecked things for just about 2 years now.

Unless you know how to go back in time, there's no way we can prevent the war from starting.

We NEVER should have gone, that's true. But we went anyway. It is our responsibility. If we still consider responsibility to be a noble or honorable concept, that is.

[Disturbed]

17. Most Iraqis want the U.S. Occupation to end.

The Bush Junta don't give a fuck what Iraqis want. The U.S. Troops will stay until doomsday or all the oil is gone, whichever comes first.

[thebigidea]

18. so the only honorable, noble thing to do is occupy them militarily

very honorable, yeah. good luck with those excuses, you'll be making them for years to come.

[laura888]

19. Here's the analogy that someone posted that makes the most sense to me:

You go to a guy's house that you have been talking shit about for many years. You throw a bottle of grape juice through his window and climb in after it.

You tell him your going to clean it up, but you go to his fridge and take a sandwich. You then go lock his little sister in a closet, shoot his dad, and get to work cleaning out his wallet.

He tells you to get the fuck out, and you say I can't leave yet, I haven't cleaned up the juice yet, while you proceed to punch him in the face.

[laura888]

20. We need to hear this opinion more

Surprisingly, all of Air America seems to be in the "we need to stay" camp.

[Malva Zebrina]

21. I am beginning to think

after reading the other thread about RR statement and this one, that AAR is hooked into the "party line" I don't think Malloy is, but I think Franken, Rhodes and Springer may push the "party line" and if that is the case, the network will fall prey to marketing and just getting too big for it's britches. I value independant thought and would hate to be manipulated in any way by the network. It is becoming plain to me that the party line was to vote to go into Iraq. Now that the Democrats whored themself out to that, either for polical game-you know, just in case Bush did have an overwhelming victory in a matter of a week, or, and this is a big or, they also were in favor of Iraq invasion themself. Once the mistake was realized they resorted to lame excuses which did not fly with me, and I think it one of the biggest reasons Kerry lost--ie people saw no difference in approach to Iraq, and saw Bush as "tough" and "resolute

Now we see, well, as long as we are there we have a responsibility to fix it. No one is fixing anything and that much is obvious! We are meddling and juggling at the pleasure of Halliburton and the rest of the leeches whose only interest is making a profit and making sure even Democrats are on their side.

This approach of AAR, should it continue, imo, has the '08 candidacy of Hillary Clinton or John Kerry, in mind. Both voted to let Bush go and slaughter; Kerry has to stick with his unfortunate self applied heavy yoke and Hillary probably wishes by that time, it will have gone away, and both have taken the tack and assume the mantle of the "great healers" who only have the well being of the poor beseiged and suffering Iraqis in mind.(and dare I say, perhaps the well being of Halliburton et al also?)

If it continues on AAR pushing the moderate center line as a method to sway persons, being a liberal also, I will tune out AAR in favor of those who think more independantly.