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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:24 PM
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Delay compares GOP Contract With America to the Magna Carta
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 08:25 PM by K-W
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&u=/ap/20050413/ap_on_go_co/delay_contract_website&printer=1

My favorite quote:

Delay: "In exercising their freedom to govern themselves, the people could read The Contract with America and embrace the agenda in the document,"

In exercising thier freedom to govern themselves... they can read how you plan to govern them and embrace the agenda you will thrust upon them .

Wow, thats magical. Paging Tom Paine.

The article nicely mentions that the republicans didnt even follow the contract.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:25 PM
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1. If Tom Paine were alive today
He'd have killed himself by now.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:26 PM
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2. Again Tom DeLay is a shit-head and he is history on capital hill
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:16 AM
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15. To me
I can't believe they even let him open his mouth.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:58 AM
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18. Really hard to control a loose cannon, so Bush has used DeLay...
...like a sledge hammer against the opposition, now he has become a liability, Bush is putting miles between himself and DeLay and the republican party is about to yank the plug on the guy. Good riddance to very smelly garbage!
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:27 PM
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3. KamaAina Compares Bush** to King John
forced to sign the Magna Carta at Runnymede. (I just know one of you will have the date up here in a few minutes.) Considered such a disgrace to the Crown that no English king since has been named John.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:29 PM
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4. June 15, 1215
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 08:33 PM by Jack Rabbit
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:43 PM
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8. Nicely done, Jack. Extra credit for the stylin' image.
am I allowed to refer to something medieval as "stylin'"? :-)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:56 PM
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10. King John
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 08:58 PM by Jack Rabbit
We think of King John as a weak monarch who was forced to sign the Magna Carta and as the tax-levying tyrant of the Robin Hood legends. However, in the Tudor period he was regarded as a great king because he was a sort of Protestant prototype; he defied the Vatican by rejecting the Pope's appointment of Cardinal Langdon as Archbishop of Canterbury and attempted to make his own choice.

Shakespeare's unflattering portrait of John in King John was very unusual for the time. It is one of the factors that cause some Shakespearean scholars to speculate that the Bard may have been a closet Catholic.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:13 PM
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11. And so the Bush**-John comparison continues
We think of King John as a weak monarch... However, in the Tudor period he was regarded as a great king because he was a sort of Protestant prototype;

We (in the future) think of Bush** as a weak would-be dictator... However, in the Reality TV period he was regarded as a great ruler because he was a sort of Fundamentalist prototype;
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:51 AM
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16. Oasis compares Bush to a stopped up John. Both are full of shit.
:hurts: So long Chimpy.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:35 PM
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5. Here's the contract....
Well, at least some of the pertinent points of the contract. Interesting to read it 10 years later.

A snip:

On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:

* FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;
* SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
* THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
* FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;
* FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
* SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;
* SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
* EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.

----

Wow... none of that seems to apply to Congeress anymore.

But there's more:

http://www.house.gov/house/Contract/CONTRACT.html

Reading the whole thing, I realize what hypocrites these people are...

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:41 PM
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7. That's pretty funny
None of the 'magna carta' seems to have been actually implemented.

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 04:05 AM
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19. The "Contract With America" was a republican snow job from....
...start to finish. It was total bullshit, used only to get Gingrich and his Dominionist backers into congress. Once in, the neo-cons and Dominionists followed the real agenda they wanted and basically used the contract to wipe their asses with. They go right on fooling vast numbers of gullible people.:popcorn:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:39 PM
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6. Uh... Mr. DeLay? There's a moving van waiting outside.
Guy says he's here to pick up your stuff....?

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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:46 PM
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9. This is so so so... disgusting.
Yes, let us approach a platform with the distinct and intentional plan to strip away rights and destroy the middle class further and further for personal greed and corruption.

Sounds more like a declaration of war against the American People.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:44 PM
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12. Yeah and where are the term limits, they ran on when they were the
minority power for forty years?
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:16 AM
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14. No surprise
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 01:16 AM by Spiffarino
Duhbya recently compared the staged toppling of Saddam's statue in Baghdad to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

These people know no shame. They must believe us all to be complete, utter imbeciles with no sense of history or irony. They have no respect for the American people - and that includes their most ardent supporters.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:09 AM
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17. Oh, can we right a new Declaration of Indie?
That way, we can rescue the non-NeoCons from Texas, Florida, GA, and a few others. We all get moved up north and create our own economy. Bush can enslave his followers exclusively and send them to war too.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 04:51 AM
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20. Considering Magna Carta
was generally concerned with the rights of the nobles, I wouldn't say that is a flattering comparison. Idiots.

Julie
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:54 AM
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21. part of magna carta was to strip away some of the king's powers
and prevent abuse of that power...

wonder how the little "dick-tater" would like that to happen....
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:56 AM
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22. The Clinton Economic Plan had more of an impact.
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