Guns-in-bar measure advances in House - AZ

[tyedyeto]

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=local&story_id=041305a4_gunsandalcohol

PHOENIX - The Arizona House voted yesterday to let people take guns into bars and restaurants if the establishments don't deny them permission and if the bearers aren't drinking alcohol.
Arizona now bans possession of firearms in bars and restaurants that sell alcohol.

Supporters say current law deprives law-abiding citizens of the means to protect themselves and others and subjects their guns to the risk of theft if they're left in vehicles parked outside bars or restaurants.

Critics said the bill (SB1363) could lead to confrontations in bars and increases in insurance premiums for the businesses.

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Hopefully Gov. Napolitano will veto this one too.

[hippiepunk]

1. Jesus Christ

When I saw that on the Daily Show, I went fuckin insane. Goddamnit, what a retarded idea!

[tyedyeto]

4. I agree....totally ridiculous.....

Do alcohol and guns ever mix? I think not!

[whistle]

2. That's a great place to allow guns, even in the old west....

...cowboys had to check their firearms at the door!

[MuseRider]

6. You beat me

by a minute! LOL

[whistle]

16. Just call me "quick-draw"

:rofl:

[tyedyeto]

24. OK.....McGraw....LOL

[tyedyeto]

8. Plus all the publicity about the 'Minutemen' carrying......

this state is getting dangerous.

[politicaholic]

3. I am never going to Arizona again if that passes...

when was the last time someone tried to shoot you over dinner?

[rodeodance]

7. good god-what are we up against?-this Right jaugernau that just gets

worse and keeps plowing ahead.

[tyedyeto]

13. In this state, we may be up against ....

someone bringing a gun into a bar or restaurant and blowing customers and employees away.

[tyedyeto]

9. It could get very scary, esp in the inner cities or very small towns here

"I am never going to Arizona again if that passes..."

I wish I had that choice, but alas, I live here.

[MuseRider]

5. Guns and alcohol

don't mix? :shrug: Who knew?

[tyedyeto]

12. Apparently a majority of the state house members.....n/t

[Jacobin]

10. I think its a great idea

Let the red-staters all get drunk and shoot each other.

A little chlorine in the gene pool would be a wonderful thing right about now.

[tyedyeto]

11. But.......

more and more people here are turning blue. I don't want to get caught in the crossfire.

[pinto]

14. Increased risk for bar owners/employees would seem a reasonable

legal rebuttal to the proposed law. That and the attendant increase in insurance premiums on their business. I'm no lawyer, but they probably have their hands full as it is and don't need the added legal responsiblity that may come with the law.

[tyedyeto]

15. In another part of the article.........

it says:

"Under the bill, backed by the National Rifle Association, people could carry weapons into bars and restaurants that don't post notices prohibiting it. It was opposed by law enforcement groups and organizations representing bar and restaurant operators."

Post a notice? When do people read those and if it after dark with no light could you see it? When was the last time bar patrons looked at the 'Alcohol/Pregnancy" poster? Strange thought about that: The town where I work, the average age is around 72....when was the last time a retired lady had pregnancy complications from alcohol?

[Solly Mack]

17. So the designated driver can shoot the people that piss the drunks off

got it...

[tyedyeto]

28. Who is to say that the Designated Driver...or 'newcomer to a bar.........

didn't have a few before they arrived???

[Solly Mack]

31. That's true

I know I want to spend my time in a bar where everyone is carrying a gun..oh yeah...fun!fun!

(NOT)

[tyedyeto]

32. Me either....and I have to live here! n/t

[NoPasaran]

18. What's the sense of

letting people bring their guns into bars if your not going to let them drink?

[JohnnyBoots]

19. There's also a bill on the floor to

allow only rat poison to be given out to trick or treating children on halloween.

[tyedyeto]

27. Sarcasm?????? n/t

[tyedyeto]

23. Huh? I hope that was .....

was said with :sarcasm: ...

Guns and alcohol do not mix.........from a pro-gun but anti guns in bars person.

[tyedyeto]

33. Who's to say they have not been drinking b4 they get there? n/t

[Romulus]

20. great law

If a person has a permit to carry the weapon, then they should be allowed to carry it in a "bar" (AKA the local restaurant that also serves alcohol), unless the business owner asks them not to. Just like you can't drink and drive, you can't drink and carry. Off-duty police do this all the time (i.e, carry in "bars").

Non-issue. Time to move on to something important, like Tom Delay's Kapital Korruption, the impending war with Iran, or something actually relevant.

[tyedyeto]

26. Non-Issue??? Do you live here?

I don't want any customer to be carrying a weapon while I am on the premises. Who knows how many drinks a person with a gun have had before I entered the establishment? Will I be caught in the middle of some sort of dispute?

Why do people think that guns and alcohol mixed together are good for our country?

[Patiod]

21. Thought they already could - Tombstone bartender was packin'

I don't think my SO noticed, since said bartender was about 120 pounds and had DD breasts, but when I asked about her pistols, she said she carried because she was worried about locking up at night. It's possilbe that she didn't load them until the patrons were gone, but I doubt it.

[tyedyeto]

25. Bartenders have a different set of laws than do the general public...

Would you want a peatron coming at you while you were locking up at night?

[Patiod]

34. Was in no way editorilizing on whether bartenders should carry

just commenting that guns are already in bars in some way.

[megatherium]

22. Best be polite next time I get a glass of whisky in Tombstone. nt

[leesa]

29. Oh that is an excellent idea! Maybe this is their program for population

control. Americans deserve what they get.

[tyedyeto]

30. What??? Not all of us in this purple state.......

endorse this red state view of life. Many of us actually feel life is important and guns have no place in bars.

I hope what you said was :sarcasm: