i feel like 9/11 was "marketed" to me . . .

[datasuspect]

does anyone else think this?

does it go beyond mere respect and remembrance?

is the flag a merchandising tie-in now?

where am i?

[FreedomAngel82]

1. They're using 9/11

to get what they want. If you don't have a flag on your car or you don't have a Bush/Cheney sticker you're unAmerican. If you question what happened on 9/11 you're a terrorist. How fucked huh?

[TomClash]

13. Screw them and screw that!

Say what you want and believe what you want.

When you think about it, do you really ahve anything to lose?

[kliljedahl]

18. And all those yellow magnet ribbons

aren't really saying "support the troops" aren't saying that at all. They're saying "support * or you're un-a murkan".


http://www.kliljedahl.net

[WLKjr]

2. remember them selling coins made from the steel?

your damn right it was marketed.


People made money off the death of 3000 people....its shameful.

[datasuspect]

6. considering that so many people in europe died

during wwII.

kinda makes that clear september day almost seem anticlimactic a few years later . . .

[Stephanie]

19. Remember the GOP fundraiser photo of Bush on AF1

Supposedly on 9/11, but totally posed, and they were SELLING it for DONATIONS.

[WLKjr]

29. There are plenty of others too sadly...n/t

[Doctor_J]

3. It was marketed...

another photo op for *, and a crucial one, since w/o it he probably would've been either voted out or impeached by now.

[chelaque liberal]

26. It was marketed long before the election. It was marketed for his

invasion of Iraq which was already planned when he first took office. It was marketed as the "Pearl Harbor."

[cry baby]

4. It was...

all of it...marketing. and you are in a hell of b*sh's making.

[Burma Jones]

5. Carl Rove Marketed it to us

Once I got more than 100 miles away from Manhattan, the stink of 9-11 wallowing got pretty strong....

[datasuspect]

7. it seems like people

in bugg tussel and bumfuck seemed more worked up about it than manhattanites.

[Burma Jones]

14. I have to say...........

I was in Westchester on 9-11, and at Ground Zero a week afterwards, when you could still smell that something horrible had happened. On 9-11, about 4 in the afternoon, I went to the grocery store in Pound Ridge, about 40 miles north of Manhattan, a village that lost a couple of residents in the WTC. There was absolute silence in the store. There was absolute silence everywhere, no planes, no cell phones, no music from radios, everyone whispered.

As time went on, there were no yellow ribbons, but an occasional candle in a window for a lost family member or friend. People hung out their flags, in fact, Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon put up their flag in front of their house. But there was no "boast or bray" just a lot of quiet resolve........

[aaronnyc]

21. I live about a mile from the WTC

I was there on 9/11, and your description is entirely as I remember it.

The patriotism there, should not be confused with the bullshit politically motivated patriotism which emerged from the Right. It was entirely quiet and somber.

I live downtown - which was completely shut down in the immediate days afterwards. Every few minutes a fire, police. emt type vehicles would drive down the street (these were the only viachles allowed on the street). On every corner there would be a handful of people (wearing face masks to cover themselves from the smoke) waiting for these vehicles, and when they would go by the people would applaud and waive American flags.

The flags had nothing to do with supporting Bush, or anything like that. They were an inspiring signal of resolve in the immediate aftermath, of seeing the most horrible of tragedies occur right in our neighborhood. I live in Greenwich Village, where virtually nobody is a Republican, yet, every block was filled with American flags. As disgusted as I am by seeing American flags constantly waived today, they truly made me feel proud right after 9/11.

I guess this is why I have been particularly dismayed by the politicizing and marketing which ensued, from something which was truly genuine and inspiring for those most closely hit.

[Stephanie]

24. Welcome to DU

I live in Chelsea. The feeling was that, when you got on a subway car, you could see that every man on the train had deputized himself and was on guard for trouble. It was just starting a conversation with the person standing next to you, any random stranger. And trying to volunteer and looking for a way to do something to help. And candles.

[Deja Q]

8. How wasn't it marketed? From a paper certificate to a coin to

bits of steel to you-name-it, it was exploited.

And every act of marketing was pure inhuman evil. Period.

[datasuspect]

11. i guess i took it seriously

while it was happening, then i look now at what this country has become:

* christian jihadis issuing fatwas against the judiciary

* 2002 mid term elections/last year's abortion of a presidential election

* hyper-religiosity and the downfall of our secular culture

* the dismantling of the new deal

* the eventual dismantling of civil rights legislation

this and many other things, all done in the name of that ONE SINGLE FUCKING DAY, which, when you look at history pales in comparison to:

* the deaths of SIX MILLIONS JEWS during WWII

* the deaths of hundreds of thousands of european citizens

* the genocide which occurs to this day in many countries



sometimes it's hard to reconcile sympathy anymore for anything done or comemorated in this country when you are essentially being edged out by the psychopaths in control.

[Individualist]

9. marketed, packaged and distributed by Karl Rove n/t

[solinvictus]

10. Oh, fuck yes!

From the endless array of "We Will Never Forget!" and other bumper stickers. I joked with a co-worker about it a few years ago: "Let me have the 9/11 Combo Meal, Support Our Troops Size, with Freedom Fries, extra pickle, and a Coke." It is crass commercialization for political gain.

[James T. Kirk]

12. I think the target audience was the "arab street".

The attacks were supposed to generate support an endless, glorius global genocidal jihad. :eyes: Instead they ended up with Afghanistan and Iraq occupied by the United States and its allies.:patriot:

[dave123williams]

15. The GOP convention in NYC: when it really began stinking on ice.

They...have no shame. Political power grabs on the graves of innocents and heroes; the personification of 'coldly opportunistic'.

[FreedomAngel82]

17. Yep

That really pissed me off when these SOB's wanted to do that especially when the people didn't want them there but they came anyways! These assholes don't care about anybody else but themselves. Why else does NYC hate Bush and the republicans?

[Stephanie]

22. I just posted the same!

It was just UNFORGIVEABLE what they did during the RNC. Do you remember GIULIANI's speech?! I was SCREAMING. He talked about the people who jumped from the towers. They EXPLOITED those people. I have NEVER been so angry.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. They used 911 from the moment the first plane plowed into the WTC.

[Stephanie]

20. Also, until it was reported, Bush used to open his campaign rallies

with images of the WTC. Revved up the crowd with it.

ALSO, what about the RNC convention? They had the stage fitted out like an Evangelical church, in blond woods. But they had the podiums shaped like the WTC. They used coffin imagery. Scary subliminal sht.

[Cleita]

23. Yep, it's what the PNAC does best.

Other than that these are really incompetent people who have designed a ship of state that can't float, but they have marketed it to the public as smooth sailing and the public believes them all the while that ship is sinking.

[TomClash]

25. LIHOP or MIHOP? eom

[earth mom]

27. Agreed and I'm just pissed that it took me so long to realize it!

Or that it was LIHOP or MIHOP! Bastards Bastards Bastards! :grr:

[jdj]

28. Bush is an M.B.A.

everything they do is marketing.

it didn't start with Bush, but it's easier to have a pres with no morals to begin with than to have to siphon them out over time.