Does anyone know what the Bush ranch looks like?

[Poiuyt]

Has anyone ever seen any photos of the actual house? I'm guessing it's not quite as rustic as that little shed where they put all the correspondents.

And has Bush ever entertained any foreign dignitaries at the White House? If I were a foreign president, I would be insulted if I were taken to a pig farm in that hell hole rather than the WH.

[skypilot]

1. Some part of me thinks...

...that this "ranch" doesn't exist. Either there is nothing there or this "ranch" is actually just a "ranch-style house". I'm still waiting to see at least one fucking horse, or a cow, or a pig, or a chicken, or some kind of damned livestock. I'm not holding my breath though.

[Conservativesux]

8. It's probably really a "Chicken Ranch". Thats the only way * can get laid.

Seriously, the "clearing brush" part of his act is just a photo op to make the little people think * is one of them.

Its so obvious, but I suppose it works on the dull minded neo-Cons.

[BlueEyedSon]

2. Apparently it has all the latest energy conservation do dads

Geothermal heating & cooling, photovoltiacs, etc..... all ready for Peak Oil!

[fob]

3. Not I. If you have any idea of it's address or street or zip code

maybe the new google with satellite images could shed some light on it?

[Worst Username Ever]

4. I don't know, but it seems to have an awful lot of brush.

Everytime he is there, it is reported that he is "clearing brush."

[Bouncy Ball]

5. I've been to Crawford and you can't get near enough to the property

to even see any buildings.

Question: where did Clinton go the few times he went on vacation? Curious because I have no idea.

[tinrobot]

6. Camp David, friends houses...

Clinton was essentially homeless for years. He lived in the Arkansas governor's mansion for years, then the White House. I can't recall him having a house in Arkansas, and I think his house in New York was his first real home in a long time.

[Poiuyt]

7. I think he used Camp David

Though I seem to recall him going to Martha's Vinyard.

[lasttrip]

13. he still goes to the vineyard.

saw him at a book signing.

[Last Lemming]

22. One year it was a dude ranch

(believe it was a decision driven by polling)

[fob]

9. Bouncy, can you describe the way to the ranch? If you go to

the google satellite map area and enter crawford, tx it will show up centered on what appears to be the main town crossroads area. I looked up a story that says the ranch is 8 miles northwest of crawford. When I move what I guess is 8 miles NW and zoom down to the closest it has images for the imagery on the left is crisp and clear (although too high up to make out details beyond, roads, driveways, houses) but the image on the right is REAAALLLL blurry, almost like they are hiding something.

Can you either check out the satellite map or give some markers to look for to see if I'm in the right place? Also it says the ranch is "just outside" crawford, what is the name of the town it's ACTUALLY in? Iffin you know.

http://maps.google.com/

[Bouncy Ball]

10. Well, when I looked up my house on the Google satellite pics,

I realized the pics for my area are at least three or four years old, but that shouldn't matter, since that "ranch" (previously pig farm) has been there for a while. Supposedly.

There's only one traffic light in Crawford. I'll look on Google satellite and see if I can find it.

[notadmblnd]

23. I thought it was completed just as he stole the office of the presidency?

If I'm not mistake the home was built while he was running for office and that it is almost totally self contained. I can't remember where I read this (it's been a long time).

[Lisa]

25. absolutely right -- the new house wasn't finished on election day

He was pretending to live in the one built by the original owners (the sage-green cabin). Of course, that was too "rustic" for him.


http://www.time.com/time/poy2000/mag/ranch.html



Interesting how Bush's mean streak shows even in a tranquil, beautiful setting like this. (He tricked a reporter into drinking out of the stream, then told him that it was contaminated with cattle feces.)

[Warpy]

11. There has only been one picture allowed that I know of.

It features a front door and porch and not much else. It's shot from close to ground level so that little of the roof line is visible. Shrubbery obscures part of the facade. It's meant to look like a rustic little farm house, and the carefully controlled angle and cropping do exaclty that.

However, reports put the size of the main house at slightly over 10,000 square feet with amenities like a heated pool and tennis courts. There are also quite a few outbuildings all placed at taxpayer expense to house Secret Service agents, electronics, and probably guests (never mind the puff piece that had Putin sleeping on the living room sofa hide a bed).

Don't expect to see an aerial shot of that thing until Bush is long gone and the taxpayers of Texas have bought the place from him at a huge prorfit to use as a museum of some sort.

[Bouncy Ball]

12. Here's a website for it:

http://www.westernwhitehouse.org/

Nevermind, it's a satirical site. It's funny though!

[Lars39]

14. Someone once described it as looking like an interstate rest area.

Can't find a pic of it, but it did look like one. :)

[Bouncy Ball]

15. Ok I found what you are talking about on the satellite pics.

Sure enough, there's like a light brown overlay on the 1600 acres that are on his property.

I'm sure that's done on purpose.

[Bozita]

16. link to pig farm photos

http://eyeball.sabotage.org/prez-eyeball.htm

[Bouncy Ball]

17. Man that shit doesn't have any brush around it!

They must have to drive five miles away from the buildings to take any pictures of him "clearing brush."

He's such a fake it makes me sick. He's about as much of a cowboy as I am the Queen of England.

[Bouncy Ball]

18. BTW, those are ginormous buildings.

[LaReservaPr]

19. All i found was this old article with a picture

http://quest.cjonline.com/stories/122300/gen_1223007482.shtml

[Tinoire]

20. Well here's the entrance of the , my ass, *ranch*, & bldg

Why anyone would call it a ranch is beyond me. No cattle. Not even a damn horse because _Bush, just like any other
ole rattlesnake is afraid of horses. Ranch - *snort* - Bush's idea of Southern life and ranches, as Jane Stillwater put it, comes from watching too many re-runs of 'Deliverance'. Pigs' shit for a f*cking pig.



Here is supposedly the house


Description of house and grounds

Buildings on the land built by the Englebrechts were refurbished for new uses, such as Secret Service quarters and guest houses.

Bush and his wife had David Heymann, an associate dean of architecture at the University of Texas at Austin, design a 10,000 SF (930 m2) honey-colored native limestone single-level home on the site. Over half of that square footage is from a ten-foot-wide limestone porch that encircles the house. The house was built by members of a religious community from nearby Elm Mott, Texas and wasn't completed until after his inauguration.

The passive-solar house is positioned to absorb winter sunlight, warming the interior walkways and walls of the residence. Geothermal heat pumps circulate water through pipes buried 300 feet deep in the ground. A 40,000-gallon underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from roof urns; wastewater from sinks, toilets, and showers cascades into underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern. The water from the cistern is then used to irrigate the landscaping around the four-bedroom home.

Bush added an 11-acre man-made pond that is stocked with 600 bass and thousands of bait fish.

http://cryptome.org/bush-ranch.htm


SANCTUARY: Bush found postelection peace on his 1,600-acre spread

Bush (with Gen. Tommy Franks) in front of his Crawford getaway.


To use cheesy magazine speak, the ranch was designed "in harmony with the landscape." To reduce heating and cooling needs, prevailing winds and temperatures were taken into account in situating the building. The house also uses two lesser-known environmentally friendly technologies: geothermal heating and wastewater recycling.

Inside a closet at Bush's special vacation compound, a collection of pipes is thrust deep into the earth, down where the sun don't shine and the temperature is perpetually 67 degrees. Water circulates through this zone and then back up into house pipes to heat or cool the building. The system uses less electricity than conventional heating and cooling installations, but that electricity does come from the Crawford electric grid. The ranch also has a well and recycles its water. Water that flows out a tub drain is known as "gray water"; water from the toilet is "black water." Our fearless leader's holiday home recycles both types via subterranean filtration tanks and uses the resultant cleaner water in the garden.

All in all, the house sounds pretty nice. (For a rich person's vacation home, it's kinda small, and it sure is quiet and remote.) Still, off-grid or not, it's an utter mystery: How can this man, whose administration has gutted environmental protection as though it were a trout, care enough to recycle toilet water in his home? Who knows -- but let's hope that when Bush arrives at his little Texas paradise in January of 2005, it won't be for a vacation, but with a moving van.
http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2003/10/15/umbra-ranch/

[Synnical]

21. Here ya go

http://cryptome.org/bush-ranch.htm

(Page is loaded with pics, takes a little while to load even with a T-1 line.)

[kskiska]

24. Here's a picture

And a description:

The two-hour tour of the grounds ends at the new house the Bushes have been building. Made of limestone from Lampasas, Texas, less than a two-hour drive from here, it has long rectangular bricks of a dusty putty color with the texture of little mountain ranges. Designed to wind around a series of old live oaks, the compound has an old oak spread out over the front as its focal point. The single-level home's 10,000 sq. ft. are nearly finished, but the high-ceiling rooms take up only a third of that space. The limestone porch takes up the rest, circling the house like a moat.

[Tactical Progressive]

26. Can you imagine if Gore had bought a ranch to pretend

that he was something he wasn't?

The media would have crucified him throughout every minute of the entire campaign with it. The 'phony rancher' routine would have been louder and nastier than any of their other lies and exaggerations about Gore's supposed lies and exaggerations they had to resort to.

[Lisa]

27. ironically enough, Gore was more of a cattleman ...

His family actually owned and cared for several hundred head of livestock on their Tennessee farm. Gore himself raised and exhibited purebred Black Angus at the state fair, as a kid.