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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:57 AM
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Poll question: Pope Pius XII collaborated with fascist regimes?
Since some are pondering a new Pope, lets consider the past.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:15 AM
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1. Hitler's Pope
"The evidence was explosive. It showed for the first time that PaceIli was patently, and by the proof of his own words, anti-Jewish. It revealed that he had helped Hitler to power and at the same time undermined potential Catholic resistance in Germany. It showed that he had implicitly denied and trivialized the Holocaust, despite having reliable knowledge of its true extent. And, worse, that he was a hypocrite, for after the war he had retrospectively taken undue credit for speaking out boldly against the Nazi persecution of the Jews." JOHN CORNWELL
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:22 AM
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2. There is no question. Here are the photos
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:47 AM
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5. These dispel the popular myth...
that Nazi had nothing to do with Christians.

I have always thought that the effort to play up the
Nazi occult angle was to hide this truth.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:39 AM
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3. Not only that...
He help smuggle, with the blessing and help of the CIA, Nazi's into S. America and to North America. So yes, he did more than collaborate, he actually went straight to hell without passing go. Then again, so did Pres Bush and the Dulles boys. Ah, we say "never forget" yet we cannot remember long enough to know that we are forgetting.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:42 AM
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4. Huh, what, forgetting laws, human rights and people? Naw! *Sarcasm*
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:55 AM
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6. Ah huh, I just forgot the forgetting of the thing not to forget n/t
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 07:20 AM
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7. and Pope John Paul II collaborated with fascist regimes as well
he and his cardinals here supported the shrub and his minions.
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