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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:05 AM
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I don't like to complain, but could we PLEASE stop this insane
business of fiddling with the clocks twice a year?

Any nominations for a more pointless thing that we do in this country?

Redstone
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:06 AM
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1. Indiana doesn't do it.
because "the cows know what time it is"
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:58 AM
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27. but we soon will
If we had sprung forward this morning, in southern indiana, it would have been pitch black at 6:25 am.

My hubby commutes an hour to work and when he opens the store, we get up around 4 am so that he can leave by 6. All winter I have watched the sky at that hour, getting used to when the light comes and watching it come earlier and earlier.

By 6 am it is daylight.

But this morning, as I looked at the clock at 5:20 am our time...I realized that if the state legislature has its way that it will be that dark at 6:20 am this time next year.

Morons.

If we must do the clock dance in Indiana, we should at least follow central time.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:06 AM
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2. Amen n/t
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shrub chipper Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:06 AM
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3. I agree
We don't have DST in Indiana and the Republicans are bound and determined that we will .

I just don't understand it, either.
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:59 AM
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28. We live 5 miles from the Michigan/Indiana border
We live on the Michigan side, but my hubby and I both work in Indiana. We have to go by two sets of clocks... one for our jobs, the other for our daughter's school schedule and all the "daily life" things that affect us in Michigan.

My husband drives an hour each way for work, so during Daylight Savings Time he leaves here at 5:00 a.m. MI time to get to work at 5:00 a.m. IN time. Coming home he leaves work at 1:00 p.m. IN time, but doesn't arrive home until 3:00 MI time.

My job is only a five minute drive, so I arrive at work almost an hour earlier than I left the house, but arrive home almost an hour later than I left work.

Since hubby moved here from Indiana to marry me, he considers Daylight Savings Time the most ridiculous thing in the world. Whenever we try to plan anything during the DST half of the year, our conversations go something like this:

Him: I made an appointment to have the truck serviced at 2:00 tomorrow, when I get in town from work.

Me: You don't get here till 3:00.

Him: No, I get here at 2:00.

Me: That's Indiana time. Did you make the service appointment for 2:00 Michigan time, or Indiana time?

Him: I made it for 2:00, period.

Me: The mechanic is here in Michigan. If he said 2:00, that's Michigan time, which is 1:00 Indiana time, which means you're just leaving work and are two hours away from getting here... Michigan time. If he said 3:00 Michigan time, THAT would be 2:00 Indiana time, which is when you get here.

Him: :mad: I hate Michigan.

Good thing he loves me! :D
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:07 AM
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4. My kids barely made it to school on time.
And they are sleepy. And I'm tired, too. My internal clock has not adjusted. And in two weeks I'm going to fiddle with it again by traveling across two time zones for only four days.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:31 AM
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18. My son woke up at 6:20 this morning - 40 minutes ahead of schedule.
Take into consideration that it was only 5:20 for his internal clock, he will be in rare form later this afternoon.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:30 AM
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33. Ugh. Can't do a nap as that will cause him to
fall asleep later than usual. Maybe he needs to sweat it out and go to bed a 30 minutes early to get the extra sleep and wake up on schedule? Or does he do better with the nap?
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:45 PM
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43. Naps are a thing of the past - he's in full day kindergarten.
I suspect he'll be a miserable bear when he gets home this afternoon. I warned my wife, who will warn the babysitter - and hopefully, he'll just pass out around 7 or 8 tonight without too much of a struggle.

This happens to him every time the clocks change. His big sister has no problems like this - she'll happily sleep until noon if we let her.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:10 AM
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5. Yeah, and 2 time zones in the US would be enough, no?
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 09:11 AM by BlueEyedSon
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:11 AM
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6. I hate it, too.
Pick one system or the other and leave it that way all year long.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:11 AM
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7. It was tried in NY State
It was so dark in the morning that the school children in rural areas were in serious jeopardy while waiting for the school bus.

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:38 AM
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20. Well, then leave the clocks on the time
when it's NOT too dark for the kids in the morning. Then leave them alone.

Redstone
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:53 AM
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25. I do not care
one way or the other.

In these lands where I live the battle rages on!

180
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:12 AM
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8. Move to Arizona.
(I don't think they have DST.)
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:14 AM
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9. You're right, AZ doesn't change to DST. n/t
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candle_bright Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:39 AM
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21. Hawaii doesn't have it either.
I can't stand the time change deal!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:15 AM
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10. I LOVE it!
And look forward to it!

Benjamin Franklin was a GENIUS!
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Jonx6 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:29 AM
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15. Really? n/t
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:52 AM
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24. Yep
I now have an hour of daylight each night to work in my garden after I get home from work. Without DST, it would be quite a while before I could work in my garden after work.
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Jonx6 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:56 AM
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35. Yeah...
I guess it's cool to have more mountain bike daylight, but it just seems here in Texas, the less sun we have during the summer afternoons, the better. Of course, that would mean warmer mornings. I wish we could skip it once to see how it would be.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:39 AM
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31. Hi Jonx6!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Jonx6 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:57 AM
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36. Thanks!
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:17 AM
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11. I think it was better when they did it at the end of April
the mornings are too dark for me now and it's psychologically hard to get up.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:18 AM
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12. Amen to that!!! I HATE DST!!! When the early darkness is imposed
each fall, it's like the end of hope.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:20 AM
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13. it sounds more like you hate standard time...
in which case i agree with you. DST all the time, all year!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:37 AM
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19. Yes, I suppose that's it - DST all year for me. It's the dark evenings
I hate. That transition to them in the fall is the worst part of the season and one of the hardest parts of winter. Not great for people with seasonal affective disorder either. You get home from work or school and there's no daylight. Like living in a cave!

Funny that I assumed the DST was the bad one after all these years - but you're right, it's the standard time I've got the gripe with.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:26 AM
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14. I have always said that anyone who could convince the country to
change their clocks to 'save daylight' should run for president, cause they could convince the poor that the rich deserve to be rich and the poor should just shut up! (did bush** invent 'daylight savings' time?):sarcasm:
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loro mi dicevano Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:29 AM
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16. Speaking of time, why can't CST be used on TV instead of EST?
CST is central time! Doesn't it make more sense to use central time as your base? That way, EST would add one hour, and PST could subtract two, and it would all be good. :P
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:58 AM
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37. East Coast Bias
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loro mi dicevano Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:38 PM
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42. But but but, there are only liberals on the east coast!
We should go off the time of the heartland.

:P
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:31 AM
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17. I like having my internal clock turned on it's head
NOT!!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:43 AM
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22. You think that's bad?
You should try this:

1) In early February, drive from San Francisco to the east coast in one week. (3 time zones)

2) In late February, fly from the east coast to London. (5 time zones)

3) In late March, do the DST switch one week earlier than the US. (+1 more hour ahead of the US, for one week)

I have no fucking clue what time it is any more.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:28 AM
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30. LOL - I hear ya - I was catatonic after a trip back from Asia once
I wasn't sure if I was awake or asleep - one of the most horrible feelings I've ever had in my life!
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:03 PM
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40. Yeah, I used to live in Hong Kong...
I taught over there... and during vacation time, I would fly back from New Jersey on Saturday... arrive in Hong Kong (a 12 hour time difference) sometime on Sunday, then have to sleep and get up for work at 6 am the next morning. I didn't know which way was up for a couple of days!!!! :) (Though, flying back to the USA always kicked my ass a little more. Perhaps it's because I didn't have a schedule, and I slept all weird hours!)

I agree with Walt. I actually like DST!
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:50 AM
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23. I agree. Whom shall we call about this? n/t
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:56 AM
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26. If we could keep it
like this all the time OK. I have a life, several small jobs and a farm. This extra daylight makes my life so much easier so I love it.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:20 AM
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29. Here's the disadvantage of Standard Time in the summer:
Japan doesn't have Daylight Saving. This means that it starts to get light at 4AM in midsummer, but it's dark by about 8 o'clock.

Since Japan's work and school day is not much different from ours, this means that the summer daylight comes when about two or three hours before anyone wakes up and is gone shortly after people finish dinner.

I love the long summer evenings, especially in places like Minneapolis and Portland, which are both at about 45 degrees latitude.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:42 AM
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32. Here's what we do:
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 10:42 AM by dbt
Set the damn clocks ahead one half hour next year on the day that Daylight Saving Time is scheduled to start, then leave 'em alone.

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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:33 AM
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34. No DST = No after work golf
That would be bad.
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ariellyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:01 PM
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38. I wish we could stop DST. It is terrible. We live in the dark for
6 months in the Midwest. I'm tired of it. Leave the damned clock alone!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:03 PM
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39. I would like to see it stop; just keep the clocks at whatever time they
are now and never change them again.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:31 PM
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41. I still can't believe that years ago (1980s) media did a report...
...on how to cope with the time change. Mind you, this was a local news station, but "news" nonetheless...

The solution? Go to bed 15 minutes earlier/later (depending on the time of year) four days before the time change (see the logic? 15, 30, 45 60 minutes and you're all set!).

Wow, now that's "investigative journalism!"
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