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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:17 AM
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Did anyone notice Terri's Schiavo's sister's self-serving statement?
Right after Terri died, her sister ran from the hospice to the nearest microphone.

The first words out of her mouth were, "After years of neglect by the very people who were supposed to care for her..."

I guess this poor-excuse-for-a-sister has officially joined the ranks of the other soul-lacking Schindler scum.

If my sister had just died, I can't imagine making a bee line for a microphone--to mouth off hateful, political positioning statements before I claim to be oh-so sad that she's gone.

Please.

The absurdity of this dysfunctional family is limitless.

And did you hear David Gibbs' (the Schinder's "spiritual adviser) respond to Michael Schiavo's brother? Schiavo's brother was very upset that the Schindlers painted Michael as a murderer. In response, Gibbs said that Michael Schiavo was focused on himself on the day Terri died--and how selfish and unfortunate that was.

Amazing...especially after Terri's sister steps away from Terri's death bed and immediately ripped apart Michael with accusatory comments.

I have more respect for Terri than these Manson family sideshow freaks.

I'm sorry--but I'm just so sick of these people. They're so fake and they don't care anything about their sister or daughter. They have devalued her as a human being by turning her death into an amusement park ride. They sold tapes of her drooling for $100.

They have abused Terri, and I'm just so sickened by them--and equally thankful that she had a husband who stood up to these very sick, unrelenting, control freaks and honored his wife's wishes.

/off soapbox
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:31 AM
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1. I agree. Right now they're probably pissed at the Pope
for stealing the media spotlight.
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mrbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:38 AM
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4. strange that it took the pope to knock those lamers off the stage.
great timing pope, he now has eternal gratitude for this act alone.

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DARE to HOPE Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 05:58 PM
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49. God's own hand, I think...
...sweeping the fundies OFF the screen (Randall Terry's singing was the last straw) and showing the world what a Christian SHOULD look like. :-)
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:39 AM
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5. Probably...
...I wouldn't doubt that they want back in the spotlight.

Those parents seem to feed off of the cameras and the attention. The commotion kept them from dealing with their own issues--which have obviously been festering in that family for decades.

I hope the Pope and many other media stories keep the Schaivo story out of the headlines.

Michael Schiavo deserves to rest.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:07 PM
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28. They will get it back when they charge Michael Schaivo with murder.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 06:00 AM
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9. For sure
the Pope killed a lot of air time for them to get out their we need more money messages.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 07:37 AM
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10. I've thought the same thing
And am betting they will hold their own bodyless "funeral" AFTER all of the Pontiff's hoopla settles down, even if that's two months. I really think they are worse than the Elian relatives, because at least they weren't whoring over their daughter's corpse.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:32 AM
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2. If her sister had been truly concerned
she would have been there. The visitation logs showed few visitations from the family until the right wing wished to adopt her as a poster child.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:42 AM
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6. Really? I didn't know that...
I didn't know that the visitation logs showed that her family of origin hadn't visited often.

I suppose there is a lot of truth we haven't heard yet--because the media was more interested in pandering to the fundie wackos on this issue.

The more whipped into a frenzy that demographic was--the higher the ratings were for the media.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:52 AM
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7. I wonder what this family was like before they got captured by groups
(Right winged) groups who, in essance, used them for their own purposes.
From what I read the rift started after the money settlement. but when did their association with Right winged groups start?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 03:00 AM
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8. I don't think they were "captured". Everything you see of the greatest
tree existed in the nut.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:32 AM
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14. The media helped create the circus it turned into.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:09 PM
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29. couldn't agree more w/ that statement.
If harm befalls Michael Schiavo, Greer or any of the judges, the guilty party is the media for keeping this pot boiling and constantly stirring it. The corporate media clique was absolutely disgusting (and I only saw the clips Jon aired on the Daily Show)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:20 PM
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35. Jon Stewart is the only thing I'll watch these days.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:00 PM
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23. So true
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 12:02 PM by FreedomAngel82
It's so disgusting. I don't think they would be advertising this all over the tv and selling merchandise either and selling their mailing list and all that. :grr: That's really disgusting. If they really cared about Mrs. Schavio they would've told Tom DeLay and Bill Frist to butt out and go away. Didn't the news media outlets say they were going to broadcast a funeral arrangement? Can someone tell me why someone would want to watch that? It's a private personal family event. It's not like she's a celebrity or the Pope.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:18 PM
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46. Where did u hear that about the visitor logs?
That isn't something I had heard before.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:34 AM
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3. Once again.
I am profoundly sorry for Terri. She deserved so much better.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 07:48 AM
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11. Yeah.....an angry grieving sister was soooo way out of line.
She should have been soooo appreciative to her brother in law.

And i'm sure the family appreciates the fact that Michael CREMATED Terris body before the family could even see her one last time....


or give her a catholic funeral in the religion she grew up in and that the family requested.


Yup...a real great guy.:eyes:-----> :puke:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 07:55 AM
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12. They brought this on themselves...
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 08:20 AM by Cooley Hurd
Had they NOT created the sick, self-serving circus outside of the hospice in which their daughter/sister was dying, they might've had a shot at being included in the funeral arrangements. But, being the attention whores they've become, they couldn't help themselves and now they're (rightfully) out in the cold on this.

Good for Michael - the only person who actually cared for Terri enough to respect her wishes...



Peas in a pod, so to speak...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:03 PM
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24. I agree
Mrs. Schavio deserved a nice and respectful funeral. Nothing with people who she didn't know there to whore around for the cameras. I remember reading someone posted from a camera person saying that the woman at the protest's with the spoon was always hopping infront of the cameras. Yep, that's the type of person you'd want at your funeral.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:06 PM
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27. Oh that spoon lady was FIRST among media whores.
"LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!!!"
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #12
47. BTW... Sister looks real upset in that photo
Her eye make up is still perfect. Not a smudge
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:27 AM
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13. I have no problem with a sister being angry and grieving...
My problem is with the family's blatant hypocrisy.

David Gibbs, the Schindler's spiritual adviser, chastised Michael Schaivo for caring only about himself on the day of Terri's death.

Gibbs went on to say that the Schindlers are focused on Terri, on the day of her death--while Michael was not.

The sister's comments--the first words out of her mouth--after Terri died were not about Terri at all. They were fighting words directed at Michael Schiavo.

Gibb's assertion--that the Schindlers were solely focused on Terri that day, and not on the family feud--were clearly debunked by the sister's own words.

Hypocrisy.



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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:36 AM
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15. Huh ??
The sister's comments--the first words out of her mouth--after Terri died were not about Terri at all. They were fighting words directed at Michael Schiavo.

uhhhh...yeah !! She felt her sisters death was BECAUSE OF MS !! Its a lttle hard to talk about the loss of her sister WITHOUT mentioning MS.

I have no problem with a sister being angry and grieving...

Apparently you do.



Hey , would you want to marry MS ?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:56 AM
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18. I'd prefer MS to any of the Schwindler family.
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 11:59 AM by mondo joe
But not in the market for a spouse.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:56 AM
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I would marry him in an instant
He showed more love for Terri than anyone else involved in this tragedy.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:56 AM
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19. Spiritual Advisors: Father Pavone (sp), and Fr Tuck???
I have known many Priests within my lifetime but without a doubt these men in no way should be classified as "men of God." There are ways of disagreeing without the absolute vitriol of these "Spiritual Avisors." They surely haven't followed the teachings of their leader the Pope.

Nancy Grace and the media whores could care less about the personal lives of the Schiavo's or the Schindlers. This media circus with it's 50 protestors of bagpiper, jugglers for Christ, obnoxious choirs of off-keyed singers, bugleboys, etc., etc., outside a hospice where dying people and their families are attempting to say their quiet final goodbye's is horrific. One granddaughter called to the bedside of her grandfather was unable to get through this carnival sideshow to say goodbye to her grandfather moments before he died.

I am afraid that if any deaths occurred to any member of my family because of hateful speech/threats by media commentators, spiritual advisors, politicians, etc., I would do whatever it takes to get them into a court of law before the DeLay's, Bush's and fundamentalist religious wacko's appointed their own judges. There would be no place these creeps could hide. I would not run from them but encounter them face-to-face to make them see what their greed and hate has wrought.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:37 PM
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38. Dirty Laundry
Did they do the operation?
Is the head dead, yet?
You know the boys in the back room
Have a running bet.
Get the widow on the set!
We need Dirty Laundry!

Don Henley.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:11 PM
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31. In a heart beat. He was obviosly a loving husband.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:54 AM
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17. ditto
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #17
20. It can be difficult being in the minority here.
I understand.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:58 AM
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21. It must be difficult indeed when the facts of the case so overwhelmingly
dwarf and negate your bizarre accusations.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:06 PM
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26. Tell me about it!
It helps to have friends and support though, doesn't it? It is one thing to have disagreements and another to have conflagrations; there have been more than a few of the latter the last few weeks
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:12 PM
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32. Really !!
alot of intimidation by numbers.

Ive had alot of pm's telling me they agree with TS being feed and had rather less that flattering comments about Michel Schiavo , but were afraid to incur the wrath of the masses.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:41 PM
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39. that's interesting.
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 12:43 PM by barb162
I am glad to hear that (I don't use the pm feature). I did put some people on ignore the last few weeks, basically using two or so namecallings in a row to put posters on ignore. Disagreement/ difference of opinion is one thing and totally fine with me, but screaming namecalling is just unacceptable in my book. Some things were so toxic I couldn't believe it but I don't believe in use of the alert button. It got SO polarized that no questioning, no hint of of questioning was allowed. Well I am a great believer in freedom of thought....

(Rational discourse, rational disagreement= good
Screaming, ranting, name-calling=not good)
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:13 PM
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33. Well, try to get your facts straight instead of just spewing what you saw
on the teevee. Learn a little bit about what Michael Schaivo went through and put yourself in his shoes.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:08 PM
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40. Are you aware
that is was Mchael Shaivo who took nurse's training to care for his wife? And that the parents and siblings gave up her care after only two weeks? Check the visitation logs...Michael Shaivo visited much more often than the parents.
Also, Michawl Shaivo turned down a million dollars to divorce her.
The facts don't support your view of Michael Shaivo as the villain.
Also, if the family truly believed in Bush's "culture of life", they'd want to make sure no other young woman suffered the dangers of anorexia and bulemia. Notice how the parents don't mention WHY Terri became comatose. And those who have studied women who suffer these illnesses have found a strong direct relationship between the ailment and parental approval/disapproval.
So, you could make a case that the Schlinders caused Terri's demise.
You might want to consider the facts instead of merely an emotional response.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:57 PM
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42. Check the visitation logs ????
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 02:00 PM by drdon326



obviously you have....i'm sure you have a link.

Notice how the parents don't mention WHY Terri became comatose.

Well, duh, only 2 people know what actually happened that night and one of them made sure the other wouldnt talk. sheeeesh.

And those who have studied women who suffer these illnesses have found a strong direct relationship between the ailment and parental approval/disapproval.
So, you could make a case that the Schlinders caused Terri's demise.


Maybe youre watching too many CSI shows ?? Thats right, wrap it up into a neat little package and you feel better.

But forgive me, you know alll the facts.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:08 PM
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44. The doctors say her coma
was related to her potassium levels because of her bulimia. How did her husband cause her bulimia? What facts do you have to support the husband causing her condition? Any at all? Or just Pat Boone's assertion that he was responsible? (like he knows what happened...really, how inane is this? A has-been celebrity blindly speculating.) Like the parents, you're totally avoiding the cause of her condition. Her bulimia. No blunt force trauma. No domestic abuse.
This is what is verifiable. Michael Shaivo visited his wife more often than her parents. Michael Shaivo took nurse's training for 4 years to better care for her. The Schlinders gave up her care after two weeks.
You are not giving us any facts related to your opinion that the husband caused her condition. Nothing.
So, maybe I do have all the facts.
Or, at least, more than you.
(hint: turn off Faux News and read. You need better news sources.)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:15 PM
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45. help us understand right wing logic
Seriously. You know that Terri lost her weight before they got together, and that her potassium level was high which indicates bulimia, right? You know that Michael Schiavo took her to California for the newest therapies available, right? You know he became a respiratory therapist and nurse so he could care for his wife, right? You know he's been with her for 15 years, right?

But you just toss that aside and choose to believe completely unsubstantiated shit. How do you do that? Because that's exactly what's been baffling the rest of us for years now. Fact vs. innuendo, and the right wing always chooses innuendo.

Help us understand why.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:10 PM
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30. I have no sympathy for that family. They chose to make it a media
circus every step of the way. The funeral would have ALSO been a media circus.

Michael Schaivo cared for her for YEARS. I'll bet you wouldn't do the same.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:17 PM
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34. NOt only that but MS provided extraordinarily good care for his wife.
In all those years not one bed sore.

The court record reflects what an amazing job he did.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:21 PM
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36. "Not one bed sore" ?
gee, da ya think the nurses and hospice staff had something to do with it ?

And speaking of hospices, I always wondered why MS put her in a hospice. a place where people go to die, rather than a nursing home ?

I know we disagree MJ.....so be it.

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:24 PM
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37. Again, look at the court record rather than IMAGINING the answer
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 12:25 PM by mondo joe
MS is credited with overseeing her care, with advocating on her behalf to the hospital staff, on BECOMING a health care provider to better know how to provide for her.

Take a look at the facts - or is it "wrathful" to correct your mistaken assumptions?

Why was she put in a hospice? Because her feeding tube was to be removed. Duh.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:27 PM
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41. Maybe Christopher Reeve's caretakers
might be interesting folks to ask about this one.

>gee, da ya think the nurses and hospice staff had something to do with it ?<

Christopher Reeve died due to an infected bed sore. He had the best medical care money could buy, and was one of the most media-covered personalities in our country, but for whatever reason, his caretakers couldn't eliminate bedsores.

Michael Schaivo might have been a lot of things, but according to the report I read, he was instrumental in making sure his wife was turned adequate times per day to eliminate any chance of bedsores. This does not take anything away from what I imagine is a very busy hospice staff. They must give an amazing level of care under what probably continues to be hellish stress.

Our family has more than a bit of experience with hospice. Hospice employees are what I can only imagine to be the closest thing to angels on this earth.

Julie
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:49 AM
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16. That "years of neglect" comment rankled me too
There's no prohibition against lying in the service of your cause on the right, so the Schindler family hust joined in. They made liars of themselves, egged on by the religious zealots and politicians who flocked to their cause.

(Did they really sell tapes of Terri for $100???)
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:00 PM
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22. ...
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 12:05 PM by MollyStark
Never mind, I was kidding.............
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:05 PM
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25. Grief is no excuse for slander and other outrageous acts.
And I tire of a democratic party that has no expectation of personal responsibility.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:07 PM
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43. Gibbs Was Their Lawyer
This guy tried to scam the courts by doing the unethical practice of submitting his own affidavit into court procedings while representing the Swindlers. If this had been a Democrat, the wingnut hate machine would have been relentless on this abuse of the justice system, but since we live in Bizarro-land, it's no big deal now.

I'm just glad these people's 15 minutes are done and off my television screen. I have no interest in anything they say or do from here on out and hope others do the same...and they'll get back to their own internal bickering which I'm sure is core to this family's sad existance. Right now they're all feeding on the money and the celebrity...when both vanish, we'll see these people for what they are.

My hopes is that Michael and Felos throw a few lawsuits to call some of the abusers of free speech into accountability for their slander, libel and verbal intimidation. There's an opportunity to dig into the right wing hate machine from it's fundie/Elmer Gantry side...which I'm sure will quickly link up with the "Gannongate" folks and other GOOP operatives. But will anyone reall care to connect those dots?
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RegexReader Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 05:42 PM
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48. The best Terri quote is from years ago
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 05:44 PM by RegexReader
Summation of my thoughts on all of this circus.


RegexReader
$USA =~ s/Republican/Democrat/ig;
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