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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:57 PM
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The Pope visited and prayed with his assailant. What would a Repuke do?
A Repuke would summarily execute him.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:59 PM
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1. Demand he be hanged or never, ever forgiven or paroled!
Raygun's family have never forgiven Hinckley, have they?
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:02 PM
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2. Bomb Iran???
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:10 PM
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4. I thought Ron Jr demanded an apology from Hinckley to his. ..
family prior to Hinkley's release from the mental facility where he was held?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:13 PM
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5. Was he released?
I don't think he was released.

None of the rayguns, including ron, can forgive him.

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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:24 PM
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7. I agree with you that they wouldn't forgive him. At least I can't see them
forgiving him. My impression of the Reagans was that they thought of virtually everyone as being beneath them. (I could be wrong about this and hope that I am) I don't believe Hinkley was released either but something came up awhile back about his being allowed supervised visits with his family and that's when this apology business came up. (I think it went something like that anyway).. I'm not sure if Hinkley was allowed those visits either.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:29 PM
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8. I believe you are correct, it was some type of weekend pass
that was being considered and the family was incensed and did what some type of apology.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:13 AM
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18. The Hinkley and Bush families are closely linked, going back to the....
...oil boom days in Midland, TX. Neil Bush was about to have lunch with Hinkley's brother when Reagan was shot.

That relationship is what kept Hinkley out of a maximum security prison.

That relationship is what made the Reagan's hate the Bush family.
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 08:47 PM
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31. Thanks for sharing. I wasn't aware of these facts until now.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:06 PM
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3. We know what Bush would do --
he did it again and again in Texas, with seeming glee.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:19 PM
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6. I don't know many liberals that would do what he did..
He was unique and I know I wouldn't have done it.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:29 PM
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9. I seem to recall that the person who shot the pope, Mehmet Ali Agca,....
...was of the Islamic faith. Do you really think that he joined the late pope in prayer, the man he had failed to kill?

IMHO, the late pope's action was nothing but a publicity stunt for the Catholic faithful.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:31 PM
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10. Uh, I just saw a VIDEO of them PRAYING together
So yeah I believe he joined the late pope in prayer
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:05 AM
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16. Oh, really? Do you think it's possible that...
...he was forced to "pray" with the late pope? How much free choice do you think that man has?

A member of the Islamic faith "joined the late pope in prayer". Right...and I just saw several pigs fly past my window at MACH 2.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 09:04 PM
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33. There are common prayers they could use together.
It is the same God they pray to you know.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:35 PM
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11. "Publicity stunt for the Catholic faithful"
:eyes: Yeah because you know the Pope is a cold-hearted robot who has no feelings about getting shot. It was SOOO easy for him to forgive the man who wanted to end his life.

The Pope was living the words of Jesus Christ. He provides an example of what we all should do on a daily basis, not just Catholics. How often do we get pissed off at little things like people who bump into us on the train or the bus?
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magnussun Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:01 AM
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13. Who here has even read the new testament?
"The Pope was living the words of Jesus Christ. He provides an example of what we all should do on a daily basis, not just Catholics. How often do we get pissed off at little things like people who bump into us on the train or the bus?"

Amen to that. The problem here is that few have actually read the New Testament. If they did, they would understand how badly Jesus Christ has been betrayed by conservative Christians.
Your point about people being quick to anger is so true. I make a special effort to be kind to everyone, even if they accidentally cut me off. If everyone lived in Christs' word, the world would be a much better place.

M
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 09:05 PM
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34. "If everyone lived in Christs' word, the world would be a much better plac
e"

Amen to that.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:21 AM
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21. His policies have condemned to death a large number....
... of people who have HIV/AIDS, and guaranteed a life of hardship for the vast majority of unwanted babies that will come into this world.

In marked contrast, Jesus healed the sick and the lame, and gave hope to all who heard His words during his all-too-brief lifetime.

Tell me again how the late pope was "living the words of Jesus Christ".
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:28 AM
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22. Because the Pope didn't want us fucking like bunnies
OK - that was crude, but got your attention.

The Pope believes that only in marriage should we have sex - and he DID believe that it should also be for fun (read some of his works) but still, only in marriage.

Yes, I know that condoms help prevent the spread of AIDS and unwanted pregnancy, but the Pope's point always was that if we weren't screwing around outside of marriage then this never would have been a problem to begin with.

...putting on flame-retardant suit now...

I'm not perfect, none of us are, the Pope was just espousing the perfect model.

BTW, how many of you know how the rhythm method works?

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:51 AM
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27. Here's my point....the AIDS/HIV horse has already left the barn.....
...so it makes little sense to attempt to close the barn door now. Protection is now the only remaining option we have left to attempt to slow the spread of this disease.

Trying to control a natural function like sex...inside or outside of marriage...is just not going to happen. Additionally, the late pope should have been cleaning up his own nest of pedophiles before attempting to dictate to others how to behave.
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magnussun Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:57 AM
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12. Forgiveness
A republican would go back to the scriptures before Christ and the new covenant and cite "an eye for an eye" and your wife and cousins too.

No matter what gays or feminists say about the Pope, he was a strong, principled, non-compromising man who lived by his bible despite pressures from this world and the worst side of human nature. Forgiveness is done for a reason, and it takes GREAT moral strength to "love your enemies." THINK about it. Who loves their enemies? Very few people. The Pope was a great man who set a fine example of Christian morality.

M
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:02 AM
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14. I told my daughter about that tonight
They showed it on TV and she smiled. She thought it was wonderful and that we should all learn a little forgiveness.

Call it a publicity stunt or whatever anyone wants, the example alone is enough for me.

Bush was the guy who mocked Karla Tucker when he killed her and I loathe the idea of that man being at the Pope's funeral.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:10 AM
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17. Propaganda generated by...
...one of the oldest and well-financed propaganda mills in the world.

The late pope's would-be killer was Muslim and had no use for western religions.

Case closed.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:16 AM
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:40 AM
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26. Right. And the Catholic Church would never stoop to the use of...
....propaganda and/or any other political ploy at their disposal to further the policies of the Catholic Church.

I've noticed over my last thirteen+ years of posting to Internet message boards that when posters begin to resort to personally abusive and insulting comments, they're usually signalling that they don't have anything of substance to post. You might want to try another tactic.

In response to your last comment, FOX News is covering this story 24/7 just like the rest of the major media. They have also been nauseatingly supportive of the late pope's policies in much the same way that they have supported the policies of the rightwing fascists that control this country. You also appear to be supportive of the late pope and his policies. I am NOT supportive of the late pope's policies at all. See the difference?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:36 AM
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24. Christianity is a western religion?
Since when?

:eyes:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:58 AM
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28. Since eastern religions were well-established long before the birth....
...of Christ, and the practice of figuratively rolling your eyes on a message board.

Some eastern religions are so ancient that they can't even be traced to a single point of origin.

You need to read some books that compare the various religions of both the east and west. Perhaps then you might begin to understand the content of my post.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:03 AM
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15. Condemn homosexuals as evil and tell women what to do with their bodies.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:31 AM
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23. I'm sitting here thinking and, you know what... nope... no...
never once did Pope John Paul II enter my house and force me to make a decision about my body.
Did he make suggestions? Yeah, he did.
Did I always abide by those? Nope.
Would he love me anyway? Yes, he would.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:37 AM
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25. No, that's what a republican would do.
I don't know what would have made you associate such actions with the Pope
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:02 AM
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29. They weren't mere "suggestions", they were Papal Edicts....
...and they are to be followed by the Catholic faithful or face excommunication. He doesn't have to "enter your house" for any reason.

The late pope "loved you"? Don't flatter yourself...he didn't even know you existed.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 09:08 PM
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35. You don't face excommunication! That's the dumbest thing I've heard today
Seriously, learn something about the topics you are talking about.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:18 AM
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20. 'Vatican helped me shoot pope'
31/03/2005

Rome - Turkish militant Mehmet Ali Agca, who in 1981 tried to kill the pope, has claimed that he had "help from the Vatican".

Agca told newspaper La Repubblica in an interview published on Thursday that without the support of certain priests and cardinals, he would not have been able to shoot Pope John Paul II twice.

"The devil is also behind the walls of the Vatican," said Agca, who was pardoned in Italy in 2000 but jailed in Turkey on his return over a killing prior to the papal assassination bid.

"The Vatican bears responsibility for the attack on the Pope," Agca was quoted as saying. "Without the help of some priests and cardinals I could not have done it."
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1683455,00.html
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:09 AM
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30. Uh-oh, MB! Prepare to duck and cover! .........
...Come on, MB, you know from of the posts you've read this evening that stuff like politics, propaganda, intrigue, and manipulative maneuvering doesn't exist within the Catholic Church!

<sarcasm off>
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 09:01 PM
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32. Probably give him Mr. Clinton's home address. nt
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 09:21 PM
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36. A game of NAKED PYRAMID! - - nt
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