Now that * is TOAST, who will the GOP nominate in 2004?

[TruthIsAll]

Bush will resign or be impeached. So who will the GOP choose to lose in 2004?

[FoxNewsIsTheDevil]

1. huh?

I hope this is meant as a joke.

[ryharrin]

2. I don't think its a joke, just positive thinking.

And I applaud it. We all realize we may be let down by the media once again, but why not get excited for now? I for one have no idea who they would run. McCain maybe? Jeb is out, Bushs won't be too popular around these parts in a couple weeks, hopefully.

[FoxNewsIsTheDevil]

4. Bill Frist also

Although I see no conceivable scenario where GWBush does not run.

[Frances]

6. If Bush is out (which I doubt)

that means that Rice and Powell are out as well. I don't see McCain as the candidate, though. The party is so dominated by hardline right wingers that I don't think he could get the nomination.

[TruthIsAll]

7. A Joke? I couldn't be more serious...see the news lately?

Do you really think this poor excuse for a human being can ever recover from this. It's all downhill from here..and no one knows this more than the Repukes who will be running for office...

How do you nominate this liar when no one will want to be associated with him by then? There are still 16 months to go. He is already a lame duck.

The NY Times and the WP have turned on him only over the last few days, after protecting his ass all along.

The WORD came down from on high: JETTISON HIS ASS!

[WindRavenX]

3. As of right now

...Bush is going to be damn hard to beat.
He isn't going to be impeached. He isn't going to resign. With 250 million for '04, he's going to wage a campaign that is going to take a lot of heart and hard work to beat.

[grasswire]

5. unless Repubs begin to peel off

....which they very well might do. I suspect some are considering whether to dump him or not right now.

[deek]

8. stone fruit

That is bad tends to rot from the pit out.

[TruthIsAll]

11. Hard to beat only if nothing is done about voting machine fraud..

WindRaven, is that just wishful thinking?

[dsc]

13. He will be hard to beat no matter what

He will outspend us by at least 2 to 1. Barring an unlikely cessation of security being the big issue the economy will only help us if it is really in the tank. This will not be a cake walk. We underestimate this man at our peril. Richards underestimated him and she lost. Gore underestimated him and the election was stolen. Just how many times does he have to prove the peril of underestimating him before we will get that.

[WindRavenX]

18. Perhaps

By "hard work" I mean getting people to vote. If every able voter could vote, the Republicans would never have a majority in Congress and we'd have the White House. More people consider themselves Democrats and would vote for Democrats over Repukes, but they just don't vote (or don't have their vote counted).
So I speak of 2 things: grass-root efforts of getting our message out and making damned sure that there isn't a repeat of 2000.

[Dagaz]

16. Finally some realism

This is a nice black eye for Bush but hardly anything serious. I suspect we'll see as much on this in 3 months as we now see about Trent Lott and his comments about Strom. These are nice distractions and fun politics but people haven't had anything to cheer about for so long that they're losing perspective.

I saw Bob Beckel on tonight and he said he wouldn't be attacking Bush now because of his popularity but would be after Congress and Tom DeLay. I've been going nuts because Rove seems to always get the Dems to criticize Iraq and Afghanistan which are Bush's strong points. Go after the economy and Beckel has a nice point to go after the hard right. Unfortunately the leadership has no clue and will attempt to make a comment about Niger some crucial statement.

I'd really like to know who is calling the shots because the strategy is a joke.

[TruthIsAll]

19. Iraq his strong points? Tell that to the troops, VFW and the CIA

Foreign policy is the Dem strong point now.

Bush is TOAST, domestic and foreign.

[jmowreader]

29. Trent Lott's comments didn't kill anyone

That's the message we need to hammer home: not that Bush lied, but that Special Forces Master Sergeant Daniel Petithory died because Bush lied. That Specialist Nathan Chapman is dead because Bush lied. That Specialist Jason Disney is dead because Bush lied.

That's how Bush the Elder nailed Dukakis--put a name to Dukakis' prison furlough program.

If we can turn two hundred-plus soldiers into Bush's running mates, Bush really may be toast.

[Trek234]

24. More like 600 million

nt

[dsc]

9. You are more likely to be

holding the winning Powerball ticket while planting tomatoes on Mars then Bush is to be Impeached by a Republican Congress. If these people have shown nothing else it is imperviousness to public opinion. There is one way out of this mess and that is a Democratic victory in 04.

[DagmarK]

14. Yeah but DSC......Those repukes in Congress have a higher priority.......

their own seats.

And they can't continue to protect Bush* and expect to keep their cushy positions in Washington. There *is* a limit to their seeming imperviousness.....and it comes down to their own greed.

[Trek234]

25. You think so?

If you go down while helping "the family" "the family" will take care of you. I'm sure any repubs that take a fall for Bush will be rewarded well.

[Pobeka]

10. Bush is our best candidate

Seriously, I can't think of a better candidate for any Dem to run against, can you?

[DagmarK]

12. Joe Biden would be a good repuke, I think.....

Maybe just run Nader?

Frankly, they are going to have to go to a whole new neighborhood to find their man. If they were SMART, they'd get Liz Dole.....

Oh.....this is sweet justice......oh so sweet.....like nectar from the Gods. If Bush steps down.....in total shame, this would be the absolute WORST hit to his maddening ego. Here we have a man who has coasted on poppy's name his entire life......where he never paid a price for any of his screw ups, and now not even poppy can save his arse. Hell, Poppy could be managing his evil son's downfall from on high.

And gosh...maybe Florida has a chance! And we can get rid of Jeb too as gov........ Phase 2 of the fall of the BFEE......look into voter fraud in Florida and get Jeb run out of town.......

Karma is truly amazing........

[Dob Bole]

15. The only Republican with a future

is Tom Ridge. I doubt anyone will go for Bill Frist...not enough experience.

[Booberdawg]

17. Hopefully Asscroft

I have been disappointed too many times to believe yet that the Bush Crime Family is really going to be taken down. The last several days have been encouraging.

So far what has propped this idiot criminal up is the stupidity of the murican people and their belief that he is a straight shooter. With a little help of some HONEST reporting from the media, this could be put to rest in a heart beat in just about every initiative that comes out of this crooked administration.

Maybe if it were put to the murican people that he is giving them a blow job and a butt fuck without their consent they would be more inclined to see him for the fraud he really is. I don't know what has been more disappointing - how much his highness has been able to get away with out in the open or the utter ignorance of those that support him.

Linda

[bobthedrummer]

20. Realpolitik is no joke.

It's kinda written in code, and when the NYT, WP, Guardian, and BBC publish understated little articles combined with the statements of world leaders in the past few hours and the terror has struck WH speechwriters that "can't remember" who wrote the 16 words, well, like Tenet said "I was told not to tell a lie, so I didn't"
that's realpolitik.

IMO, a counter-coup, while * was in Africa. Flame me, if you wish- I'm fireproof about this. Watch Meet The Press in a couple of hours.

The code words of realpolitik, when spoken as pointed questions {I think it was Sen. Levin that brought it up ,with Sen. Kennedy's body language}including the phrase "deep in the bowels" directed at the Reichmarshall-who had to shut his fucking mouth and actually stutteredblblblblblblblblblblblbl
that is an example IMHO.

Learn more about history-it's realpolitik. Covert power struggles. Real conspiracies require the form of realpolitik, always understated for mass consumption.

The sources though WOW! Y'all don't understand it?-it's just another paranoid conspiracy from outer space then in an alternate universe.

[LibertyorDeath]

21. bobthedrummer i'm with you on this one

I'll be glued to Meet The Press in a couple of hours.

In the mean time this is a good read.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=33388&mesg_id=33388&page=

[opihimoimoi]

22. The Dems:: Use the Truth Card. We """Out Truth the Guy"""

??

[Jack Rabbit]

23. President Dennis Hastert

The Cave Man going dow with the Frat Boy, so the Speaker of the Hosue will be elevated to the presidency.

The Republicnas won't have time to rally behind someone else.

[VOX]

26. Sorry, wish I could be so optimistic...

As much as I would like to, I just don't see * going down.

The RW machine has a staggering amount of control: the executive branch, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court, the corporate media, big money. In short, the RW is literally running the show.

For * and his cronies to be booted, they would have to fail in all of these arenas, and I just don't see that happening. * and the RW have bulwark after bulwark in place.

As we saw with Clinton, the nailing of a president has to travel along party lines -- and this bulwark will hold fast for *. Unlike the Nixon and Watergate era, the Senate and House are Republican-controlled;; they will not vote out one of their own -- this bulwark will also hold fast for *. And Rupert Murdoch is not about to turn against himself or Roger Ailes.

The only way * will go down is in a *fair* election. And I punch the word "fair," since that didn't happen in 2000. We have to ensure that the election is as fair as humanly possible. We need our best, most-electable candidate out in front. We must get the corporate media (that has not nearly as much to gain by having a Democrat in the White House) to report fairly and accurately on our candidate. The Democratic contender cannot possibly outspend * in the 2004 campaign, so we must put out the efforts at the grassroots level.

Then, and only then, if our candidate can jump through every one of these hoops, will we see * depart the White House.

[NJCher]

27. assuming...it's still no day at the beach

Then, and only then, if our candidate can jump through every one of these hoops, will we see * depart the White House.

And then a big mess to clean up, financially and internationally. A huge mess in Iraq and Afghanistan. All the while, no cooperation from the repukes; only biting at the heels on any constructive attempt to solve problems.

Meanwhile, we see that voters are so shortsighted that the person who has to bail the state out of the messes the GOP gets us in is consigned to "unpopularity." Look at McGreevey/NJ and RINO Bloomberg for examples.

Even if * is toast it's still no picnic.



Cher

[radfringe]

28. GOPers are all

tied up in AWOL's coat tails. They have invested toooooo much spin in propping up the boy king to dump him now.

The GOP Spin Machine is running at high speed....

note the spin... ...it's 16 little words....
alas amnesia has set in - they forget the fus they made over Clinton's ONE little word....IS....

Although it's not too late for a GOPer to jump into the race, that person will be painted as a traitor to GOP and ohhhhh how the mud will fly

Right now, as things stand - I don't see AWOL resigning, and with GOPers holding majority in House and Senate I don't see impeachment happening anytime soon.

At this point in time the best we can hope for is for more and more of AWOL's lies to be dragged out from behind the bushes and discredit AWOL enough that the voting public no longer "trusts" him. AWOL's credibility and re-selection is on the line, he and GOPers will do whatever it takes to ensure another 4-years of bushit.

We already know (suspect) that AWOL uses terra to boost his numbers and terra-lerts are connected to AWOL's approval numbers.. (the lower the numbers go the higher the probability of a terra-lert)
A list of poll numbers with "connected" terra-lerts is here--->Terror Polls

If/when the calls for his resignation/impeachment become loud enough - we will have at the very least even more terra-lerts to frighten the public into supporting him.