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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:37 PM
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Jesse Jackson used to say abortion was genocide
against African-Americans. In the bad old days before abortion was legalized, Jesse Jackson accused pro-choice people of trying to kill off the black race. It was ugly and crazy. He has some very fundamentalist ideas. We kept trying to remind him that abortion was a voluntary proceedure but he thought it was a plot against blacks. I think he has it wrong with TS as well.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:41 PM
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1. Some people do use social darwinist arguments for abortion, though.
I don't think of it as something every pro-choicer advocates, especially since the distinction between an abortion rights and social darwinist approach was elucidated to me by a feminist who would volunteer to defend abortion clinics against clinic blockers, but it is out there.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:46 PM
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2. JJ has a big cheering section here today,
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:49 PM
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3. Oh my I sure
did not know that. WTF ?
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:51 PM
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4. It was an understandable concern.
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 06:51 PM by K-W
Just because liberal pro-choicers werent advocating finding a way to get blacks to stop reproducing doesnt mean that others in this country werent.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:54 PM
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5. Used to being the key words
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 06:55 PM by Vladimir
I think we all used to have views when younger which we'd now find impossible to endorse. Its part and parcel of life...
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:57 PM
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6. SOOOOO, WHAT!!!!
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 07:00 PM by Just Me
:grr:

Negroponte was involved in mass murder.

GWB is a war criminal.

Rumsfeld made deals with Saddam.

Wolfowitz is an adulterer.

Perle and Bush, Sr. profitteer from our wars, BIG TIME!!!

I could go on and freakin' on!!!!

PEOPLE CHANGE. JJ IS NOT OUR ENEMY!!!

WHEREAS, THE NEOCONASSHOLES ARE "BAD" PEOPLE, HERE AND NOW!!!!


damn
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 07:01 PM
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8. Thank you very much
I am glad to see I'm not the only one here bemused at the level of vitriol directed towards Rev. Jackson over what is frankly a non-issue compared to the ongoing genocide in Iraq/Afganistan, or social security reform, or whatever. You'd think he had bought himself a little bit of credit by his prior actions, but nooo... silly me. Toe the blogosphere fetish-de-jour line or else!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 09:10 PM
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10. Since he opposes same sex marriage he's not exactly my friend.
Very disappointing.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:58 PM
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7. Funny. I seem to recall that an awful lot of white women
Had abortions during the period in which it was illegal, ones medically performed. The ones who suffered most during that period were the poor and minorities, but that was because they were unable to afford the expensive procedure of therapeutic abortion and went with dangerous alternatives:

Of approximately one million abortions performed in 1967, fewer than 10,000 were reported in the Federal Government’s Vital Statistics as done legally in hospitals as “therapeutic abortion” – that is, done to preserve the life, or health, of the mother. The other 990,000 abortions were done illegally by persons ranging in competence from skilled physicians to unskilled and unscrupulous quacks. Some of the women attempted to perform abortion on themselves, using such instruments as coat hangers and knitting needles, often with fatal results. Women who have experienced unsafe abortion attempts frequently develop massive infection, or “sepsis,” and arrive at the emergency room in critical condition with fever, hemorrhage, and multiple complications. The hospital stays of those who survive are long, expensive, and disruptive of their family lives.

Septic abortion has been one of the leading causes of death among child-bearing women for many years, with a disproportionate share of the deaths falling among the poor and minority groups who cannot afford safe abortions. In 1967, for example, the death rate attributed to septic abortion, as reported in the Government’s Vital Statistics, was nearly seven times as high among non-whites as among whites. For a five-year period from 1957 to 1962, Drs. Edwin Gold and Carl Erhardt found that more than half of all maternal deaths (deaths related to pregnancy and childbirth) among Puerto Ricans and blacks living in New York City were caused by septic abortion.


More from the November 1972 issue of The Progressive: http://www.drhern.com/abpolitics.htm
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:36 PM
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9. One of the cases when I was a medical student
in Chicago was an African-American woman who tried to abort in her ninth month by shooting herself in the lower abdomen. Both she and her baby survived...it was her tenth child. My point was that he was out of touch with the absolute misery of some of these women who were having tens and even twenties of kids. I admire Rev. Jackson, but I don't agree with all of his views, including his current one on Mrs. Schiavo.
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