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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:05 AM
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Sleepwalking to disaster in Iran - Scott Ritter
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 11:06 AM by clem_c_rock
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1B5FCF4A-FBF6-443A-93A9-5E37C43FDE0B.htm

How many people are getting sick of our support for this fanatical country w/ practically more UN violations than anyone?

http://www.middleeastnews.com/unresolutionslist.html

Why do we send the equivalent of $20,000 per citizen to a country who actively spies on us??

One question: Why the F*** wouldn't Iran be trying to get a weapon? It's called deterrence and this was our strategy in the cold war. You have a fanatical country next door w/ over 200 nukes. You have the brown shirt PNAC ready to pounce on you from the other direction.

This is madness and will send the US into a 3rd world hell. Thank god I don't have children.

<snippit>
'The Israelis are concerned that if the Iranians get their nuclear enrichment programme up
and running, then there will be no way to stop the Iranians
</snippit>

And just so we don't use the stupid anti-Semite ploy, let's look at all the Jewish folks that are against the concept of Israel:

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/index.html
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
http://www.nkusa.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/
http://troploin0.free.fr/biblio/zajaz/
http://www.jewishpeacefellowship.org/
http://www.jatonyc.org/
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/jews_against_zionism
http://www.btselem.org/English/About_BTselem/index.asp
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:21 AM
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1. Didn't Israel bomb them the last time they tried to do this? Or, was
it Iraq.

Israel bombing them (with us secretly supporting them), with us only speaking out in support would save our butts (they think) but not really.

We're always going to support Israel . . . we have to. If we didn't, one of the 24 other Arab Countries would wipe them off the face of this earth. The U.S. is all they have, whether we agree with them or not.

We give Israel aid every year as well as the Arabs who claim they are Palestinians (no such heritage). Arafat kept all that money. His wife has always lived in France. When he was dying, remember her coming out saying they were trying to kill her husband (meaning, they are not going to get my money without a fight). Then it came out that the other leaders agreed to $2 million support a MONTH. Yep, per month. Un-friggin-believable. All those people living in squalor, and Arafat kept it and now his wife is.

And I'm not pro-Israel anti-Arab. I'm just telling the truth. They both are guilty; however, the Arabs are taking their frustrations of how they are living out on the Israelis, and the Israelis are not the ones to blame. They are all free to go. Have you ever heard of anyone being occupied for over 50 years?

I better stop here. It gets heated and argumentative if I keep going and that is not what I want. However, if anyone wants to debate what I have said "privately" IM me here and we will respectfully agree to disagree probably.
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:31 AM
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3. Free to go where?
"the Arabs are taking their frustrations of how they are living out on the Israelis, and the Israelis are not the ones to blame. They are all free to go. Have you ever heard of anyone being occupied for over 50 years?"

That's almost about sick. Let's all blame people who are occupied.

Wasn't the US once and occupied country? Weren't we once "terrorist" for trying to get the occupiers out? If I'm not mistaken we were occupied longer than 50 years.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:26 AM
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2. Always love input from ole 'onexhibition'!
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:31 AM
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4. You can be sure of one thing... Joe Lieberman will fully support the
bombing of Iran and I can see him again in the Rose Garden next to Bush with another IWR -- Iran War Resolution. Of course, Hillary will vote for it and Kerry will say a bunch of words to progressives and then vote for it, like he did the Iraq War Resolution.
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:32 AM
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5. Exactly - how much of the democratic PNAC can we take?
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:55 AM
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6. I know - it's not about Terri or Fallwell but maybe it warrent's a little
discussion as this type of thing could send us into the abyss.
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:37 PM
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7. Terri, Jerry, Micheal, steroids, Robert Blake, Scott Peterson!!!
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:37 PM
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8. Terri, Jerry, Micheal, steroids, Robert Blake, Scott Peterson!!!
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:03 PM
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9. boot
face the truth
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:39 PM
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10. Terri, Jerry, Micheal, steroids, Robert Blake, Scott Peterson!!!
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:44 PM
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11. The idea of our waging war
against Iran and Syria scares the heck out of me. I certainly don't put it past our current administration, and the American public is too comatose to prevent them from doing it. I don't see anything but disaster ahead. Well, I can also see a draft.
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