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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:50 AM
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Some good question's on/from Bernie Ward on 9/11
I'm listening to Bernie Ward and he's talking about the article that told Michael Moore was right about the Saudi's being taken out of the country on 9/11. One guy who called in brought up a good point about the dazed look Bush had in the F911 movie where he's reading the book. The guy is wondering: could Bush have had an ear piece in his ear and they were giving him information in that and that's why he didn't do anything? Maybe he had one and someone was feeding him information to stay calm and whoever was talking to him would handle the situation? Bernie also brought up a good point. He said he was wondering why didn't the SS men take Bush away to a hidding place and protect him if we were being attacked by a foreign enemy? Why did they let him continue to sit there? I have read Cheney was taken to a basement in the White House, so why didn't they do anything to protect Bush? A lot of rightwingers will claim "they didn't want to scare the children" but I say nonsense.
Bush could've easily excused himself and left and rescheduled the event since his brother is governor of Florida. I think it's really telling of how they didn't do anything to protect Bush and they allowed him to remain in the classroom with the children. Then of course he flew around on air force one for about two hours and then went to base to base around the country claiming that he was being threatned.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:59 AM
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1. Interesting View Point.
My best guess: He's not running things... and never was meant to.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:04 AM
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4. Yep
I think so too. I remember reading an article on him and in 1978 someone asked him if he was going to ever run anything in politics and he said he wouldn't and he'd "just be a media creation." It's all about the name and his poppy is probably really running things with Cheney. That's what I think. Especially the whole Saudi ordeal of them being flown out when everybody else was landed that day and if you know your basic Bush family 101 you'd know the Bush's and Saudi family have close tie's with the oil business. After all they did bail Bush out when he went bankrupt with one of his companies (Arbusto I believe it was).
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:45 AM
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8. Clinton said something
to the effect of: by the time you have climbed so far that you become president, you realize that a president is just a virtual president. That's probably true of Bush more than most presidents.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:02 AM
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2. taht for me is the best evidence that
this was MIHOP, if not outright LIHOP

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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:42 AM
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13. The best evidence
is that a large air military exercise was in progress that very morning.

Not exactly something the 9/11 Commission Report mentions.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:03 AM
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3. I listen to Bernie every night via the net. Very good Q's tonight.
How about the discussion about why they flew the Saaudi's out of the US before anyone knew this attack was done by men with Saudi passports? I realize many thought of Osama when they saw the planes hit, but was that really enough to OK flying all these people out of the US without interrogation? Hmmmm
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:04 AM
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5. Very telling
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 02:05 AM by FreedomAngel82
And Bernie was reading some from an article and an FBI guy was claiming they'd do that for anybody. LOL. Yeah right. And I'm the magical tooth fairy. Bernie also pointed out no other foreign group left the country (Iraqi's, Arab's etc). Just the Saudi's.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:09 AM
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6. What's interesting to me is the fact
that out of all the foreign people in this country on 9/11, the Saudis requested to leave because "they didn't want targeted because they were Saudis" and this was while the gov't was supposedly still trying to find out who did the crime.
How did they know Saudis would be targeted?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:15 AM
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7. Really
If y'all haven't check out http://www.informationclearinghouse.info and watch the movie "The Carlyle Group." It helped me to understand more with the whole Saudi thing. And they left the same afternoon of 9/11 as well.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:48 AM
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14. Classic FBI stonewalling and disinformation
The FBI first denied that it ever happened. Then they disputed the timeline. Now they won't comment.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:05 AM
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10. also clinton was out of the country in austrailia and
he could not get back to the usa...and i would have considered his life was at risk. since we really didnt know that moring who was responsible....or we didnt ..* and co did !!

fly
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:47 AM
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12. Clinton still beat Bush to NYC.
"I remember seeing the 1st plane hit on TV and thinking "that's one bad pilot"".....yeah, sure you did. And the 8/11 PDB and the 55 warnings of terrorist attacks never entered your mind, either....

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KC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:23 AM
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16. Where do you
listen to Bernie?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:02 AM
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9. understand this as well...
airforce one flew with no air force planes escortng it as well..it always has an escort for protection..and it left florida with none!!

fly
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:41 AM
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11. I think the idea that he had an earpiece makes sense.
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 03:43 AM by Carolab
Especially since Andrew Card's supposed message in *'s ear was that a second plane had attacked the WTC and 'the country is under attack'. If this were not the case; if * did not know anything, how would it make ANY sense for him to just sit there like that? Also, did you notice how QUICKLY Card delivered that message, and how * had virtually NO reaction to it? Wouldn't you imagine he would register at least SOME sort of emotion? I'd also like to know why/how it is that someone at the back of the room held up a sign reading "Don't say anything". WTF was THAT all about?
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:50 AM
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15. 9/11 Commission Report makes the Warren Commission Report look thorough
What a joke.
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